Comment on Absolutely nothing of note happened in China in June 1989, right?

• originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Those things? Also bad.

  Incredible that two things can simultaneously be shit, but it’s true.

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  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Congrats. That is exactly what I wrote.

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Half this site can’t accomplish holding two thoughts at once

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• shadowspirit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Can always rely on there being at least one person “America bad.” Doesn’t change what happened in 1989.

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  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No it doesn’t. But the same people who whine amd cry about people using whataboutism in favor of China do the EXACT same thing in favor od the US.

    They are both shit. Everyone is tired of each side pretending that only one side is shit.

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    • Syrc@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Except they’re nowhere nearly comparable. The US is pretty bad but China is an authoritarian state with internet censorship and state-controlled companies.

      The “America also bad” feels like a mass murderer saying “well you stabbed a guy 10 years ago, you’re no different”.

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      • diffaldo@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do u know banana republics, thats a rad story. i think u should look up what usa have done to south american contries.

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    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Go look up to see what China did during the great leap forward and cultural revolution. They killed about 30 million of their own people. I would like you to post a source proving that the United States murdered 30 million of its own people within the past 150 years, as well as persecuting tens of millions of people and sending millions of children from cities to be reeducated with forced labor on camps after being separated from their parents. Hundreds of thousands of intellectuals were murdered for being… Intellectuals.

      The only thing that comes close was slavery and the Japanese internment during world War II. However, slavery was abolished over 150 years ago, and during the Japanese internment families were generally kept together and they were not forcibly reeducated.

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      • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Please tell me a time when.this country did terrible things b-b-but only in this certain half of the country’s existence!! Otherwise it’s cheating!!1!”

        Conveniently chose a time right where you can ignore the Slavery and the Trail of Tears (% population wise that was just as bad). Not to mention the mass Native American “reeducation” and ripping them away from their families to get a “proper white education”

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

        …wikipedia.org/…/American_Indian_boarding_schools

        Every government has done terrible things. The US, China, and Russia are among the worst. We can argue about what is “worse.” But that is completely subjective. China literally just did much of what the US did, but on a larger scale 150 years later and with different technology.

        Arguably Russia was the worst of them all, but literally all 3 are bad. America pulled itself out of that era and into corporate indetured servitude era. Personally I think that China is worse than the US and Russia dwarfs both of them, but just because one is maybe marginally worse doesn’t mean the other wasn’t/isn’t bad.

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• Nacktmull@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  but let’s not pretend America hasn’t done similar things.

  Only total fools would do so and I see no comments here that would suggest such nonsense …

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  • atx_aquarian@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The one they replied to may have been criticizing “whataboutism”, but it could also be (mis)interpreted as implying the USA has not had similar problems.

    But who hasn’t killed their citizens in a simple misunderstanding? Or, if that doesn’t work, America Also Bad! \s

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