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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So they came… and Jewish people learned to become the Nazis? Like, what is your point here? It is okay to be a Nazi so that we can stop the Nazis first?

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You cannot be so media illiterate.
    You think that fighting a Nazi makes you a Nazi? That’s the lesson you got from the poem? That is either a mind boggling amount of illiteracy, or, more likely, you’re a Nazi apologist.

    People who are in a position to stand up to evil and fail to do so bear some responsibility for the deeds of the evil.

    Never mind that this post is clearly hyperbolic, you’re clearly making bad-faith arguments in support of fascism. If you’re a fascist or not, you gotta take a good long look in the mirror, because that’s fucked up

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    • Distant_Foreground@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe thinking it’s okay to murder someone and burn down a school for telling people not to vote is a very fascist position.

      I’m not American and have no dog in this fight but it’s fascinating to see it unfold and how blindly fanatical and willfully ignorant both sides can be.

      If a Rep punches a Dem they’ll justify it as self defense or something. If a Dem punches a Rep it’s “okay to punch a Nazi”. Even seeing how both sides interpreted the presidential debate was ridiculous. Reps ignoring all of Trump’s lies and inability to give a direct answer to a question and a lot of the more fanatical Dems willfully ignoring Biden’s obviously declining mental state.

      Reps caught up in a cult of personality and Dems willing to vote for anybody that isn’t Trump. It’s quite scary to see how easily each side can dehumanise the other while thinking they’re correct and morally superior.

      The way both sides pardon their own calls to violence can’t lead to anything good. If ‘the other’ said or did something you consider to be completely heinous and you’d justify it or praise it were the roles reversed then maybe introspection is in order.

      Of course violence is sometimes necessary but there seems to be growing bloodthirstiness from the extremes of the Left and the Right and I fear what might happen in November.

      I’m sure I’ll be downvoted to fuck but that’s just an apolitical outsider’s perspective.

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      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re simply making more bad faith arguments. The post was clearly hyperbole, but using violence is probably a reasonable response to actual fascism.

        You can’t “both sides” this. Both sides are evil, but one side is an existential threat to democracy. One side has demonstrated its not going to play by the rules and is fine breaking the norms that many checks and balances relied on.
        On one side some voters are extreme. On the other side, some politicians are extreme.
        One side has already tried to undermine democracy and actually met with some success and no repercussions.

        It’s not the same, and to call it the same is done in bad faith.

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