One thing that’s obvious here on Lemmy is that whataboutism works only in one direction. If an article is critical of China, Russia, Iran, or other dictatorships, you’d read, “But about U.S./EU/the West”. But there are tons of articles here critical of Western countries, and it’s accepted. Why is this? Just wumaos?
Comment on Shopping app Temu is “dangerous malware,” spying on your texts, U.S. lawsuit claims
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 week ago
So just like the majority USAian app out there? I think Temu fits right in. Why are people so concerned about what China is doing with their data, but not the very countries they live in or (more importantly) the dominant online surveillance presence: the USA?
tardigrada@beehaw.org 1 week ago
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 week ago
Lemmy was designed to be a place where communists would have a community. Some instances weren’t, but a lot of the original ones were.
tardigrada@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Yeah, these are the ‘tankies’ who got banned on Reddit, right? I guess it takes time until they get a minority, but it’s good that the community grows steadily.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 week ago
It’s funny that every time someone points out the pot calling the kettle black the training kicks in to shout “whataboutism” and it must be “wumao”. It’s almost a meme. You don’t think an article about Xi Ping’s government warning about USAian surveillance would be mocked and ridiculed due to their Great Firewall? That wouldn’t be “whataboutism” though, right? It would be a “critical opinion”?
tardigrada@beehaw.org 1 week ago
And the next whataboutism! What a waste of time.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 week ago
Not sure if you’re trolling now 😂 Good meme.
jarfil@beehaw.org 1 week ago
an article about Xi Ping’s government warning about USAian surveillance
Not possible. The CCP doest “warn”, it orders to block the app/site/word/photo, and it never existed. Anyone daring to say that it did, or to warn of stuff the CCP didn’t say, gets imprisoned or worse (see: the doctor who dared to warn abot COVID, instead of following CCP’s truth).
sunzu@kbin.run 1 week ago
Because people live there and that's what they care about.
Also this article is shiti propaganda. Is temu shite.... Ya, you ain't got to use.
Google luck trying to have a normal life qiehout use big tech lol
Which is a lot more dangerous than temu or tiktok from personal privacy and security perspective.
Kissaki@beehaw.org 1 week ago
“Temu is designed to make this expansive access undetected, even by sophisticated users,” Griffin’s complaint said. “Once installed, Temu can recompile itself and change properties, including overriding the data privacy settings users believe they have in place.”
So just like the majority USAian app out there?
Which apps do that? Because I am certain it’s NOT the majority, and very skeptical about any other apps doing that.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 week ago
More about the part of stealing information. Most people barely look at permissions.
A flashlight app needs access to my calls, microphone, clipboard, filesystem, and network? Sure, I’ll install it.
All Temu had to do was ask and people would grant it.
jarfil@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Not sure about Apple, on modern Android apps need to ask for each permission when they’re about to use it for the first time.
Google Play will also periodically revoque permissions to apps that haven’t used them for some time.
TehPers@beehaw.org 1 week ago
I’m not sure I understand why this question comes up everytime some chinese app is in a news article.
Anyway, it should not come as a surprise, but “Arkansas Attorney General Tim Griffin”, someone who works as AG for a state in the US, presumably is more interested in US interests than Chinese interests, and presumably places more trust in the government and businesses of the country he lives in than in the government (and businesses, for where there’s a distinction anyway) of the country of his nation’s economic rival.
ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
Russian/Chinese software contains spyware: 😡😡👿👿💢💢
US software contains spyware: 😇👉👈
DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Unsurprisingly, defenders of dictatorships always have to resort to whataboutism to defend the indefensible.
As per usual, this whataboutism is lazy and inaccurate as well.
JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
I mean, I don’t like either malware. They are banning tiktok due to security and spying on US citizens, as well as some election interference. These are all things that FAANG can and will do, but since they’re American it isn’t regulated nearly as much as they should be. All invasions of privacy are bad, it’s not whataboutism to call out the holes our regulations have by being overly specific to only “adversarial countries”.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 week ago
You do realize that license doesnt do anything, right? Facebook tier logic right there
jarfil@beehaw.org 1 week ago
This comment © 2024 by jarfil is licensed under CC BY 4.0. To view a copy of this license, visit creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
No they don’t. It’s not only not applied to their comment, but also misnamed.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 week ago
Furthermore, its posted on lemmy, which that license overrides the license on the comment
jarfil@beehaw.org 1 week ago
That… depends.
Lemmy is just a carrier software, its license has nothing to do with comments.
Instances however, each have their own TOS and can enforce license controls.Ideally, all comments should have a “license” field, so stuff like instances with ads on them, or subscription-only instances, or CC0/CC-AS only instances, could inform other instances of their rights, and avoid comments that don’t meet their policies.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 week ago
Good job on not reading it and understanding absolutely nothing 👏
Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 week ago
Why would I? Putting a license in your comment doesnt mean anything, its not legally binding in anyway
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 week ago
Believe it or not, I can be concerned about both.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 week ago
Yes you can, most people aren’t. In real life, by far the most common response I’ve gotten when talking about privacy is 😴 . My colleagues in tech will hotly debate China’s surveillance, but happy use face ID on their iPhone, upload their entire life to Google or iCloud (including recordings of therapy sessions), send their blood into do a heritage check, nearly exclusively use Amazon for shopping, have an Amazon Ring camera at their door, and so much more.
You are the minority.
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