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blackris@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The process of science is not corrupted but deeply flawed. It is like that, because we as a species are as well. Science is the best method we have to create secured knowledge, but it is far from perfect. Things like predatory journals, lazy to non existing peer reviews in established publications, reports about scientists who are under pressure to create positive results even if their research had none of those etc. show us that .

Capitalism plays a big part in this problem. To plainly reject that is simply naive.

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Science isn’t “deeply flawed”, sorry, that’s nonsense. Are there some players here and there that try and abuse the system, of course. These players are then rooted out and exposed, that’s how it works. If someone tries to hurry research, someone else will discover it.

This entire “capitalism is the root of all evil” is nonsense too. At its core, it’s the freedom to trade directly with one another and there is nothing wrong with it. Strong rules need to be in place to control that process ans the lack of that is what causes do many issues, especially in the US.

Just writing on your mobile phone, claiming science is deeply flawed, is just facepalmingly stupid.

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- blackris@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If you really think that the core of capitalism is what you described, you have no clue what you are talking about. Funny, that you ended that by calling other peoples claims stupid.
  
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  - phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Just out of curiosity, what do you think capitalism is?
    
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UmeU@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The only thing that can correct bad science is good science.

That’s the great thing about the scientific method, as soon as someone presents a flawed hypothesis which is then subjected to scrutiny, good science has the opportunity to shine a light on the mistakes.

The process of science is not deeply flawed. Just because capitalism does indeed incentivize some to stray away from the scientific method does not then make science itself flawed.

You are throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Capitalism is a big problem, but to say that the scientific method is deeply flawed because of capitalism is not correct.

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- blackris@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  We seem to be talking about different things here: science and the scientific method. Science is a process involving many different institutions and individuals with their personal worldviews, problems and interests. The state of the scientific method is a whole other discussion, I am not able to lead.
  
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  - UmeU@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The process of science is called the scientific method.
    
    There certainly are people who call what they do ‘science’, but if they aren’t using the method, they are not doing science properly.
    
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