I will. I plan on enjoying it. I hope you recognize that I’m doing this at your behest, equivalent to you eating the meat. Have you ever considered that some people know where their meat comes from and know that it’s not being kept in horrible conditions? I don’t really care that it’s dying to feed me. Plants die to feed me too.
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Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
As someone who was successfully converted to veganism I’m not going to take your shitty cow raping, carnist ass, stanky opinions on how to convert people. Go on, chuck a few slices of bacon in the pan for me.
GiveMemes@jlai.lu 5 months ago
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
Obviously I’d prefer it if you didn’t eat animals but I’m actually chill with just being more mindful about what you support. If you’re going out of your way to try and minimise the harm you’re doing then that’s better than most people.
And at least you recognise the environmental harm. The only thing that really annoys me is people lying about these things.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
There’s this great game on the internet called Half Earth Socialism. The idea is the earth has converted to a single socialist government, and you get to be dictator for life. Can you save the earth from climate change without losing popular support and being coup’ed?
A lot of people say they failed this game because it’s too hard. But I didn’t, I won on the first try. One of the biggest things I did in the game was make meat eating illegal. It was a really hard policy to push and I lost a lot of support with my constituents, I nearly got ousted. But then pollution started going down, temperature slowed its rise, extinction went down, biodiversity went up, and everyone was happier. Within a few years my approval rating was back up and then some. I also banned cars and it was the same effect.
What I’m saying is your meat should be illegal.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no one is raping cows
iiGxC@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Except dairy farmers
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no. no one .
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
So you’re saying the cows in farms all consent to being impregnated by a farmer’s fist up their vagina? How? How do cows consent to sex?
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no. I’m saying no animal has ever consented to any veterinary procedure, and that is ok. artificial insemination is not rape.
Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 5 months ago
Let me ask you this: where do you stand on sheering sheep?
SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Huh, I wonder if sheep used to grow less sool and humans just bred them for a lot of wool. Time to go research!
Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 5 months ago
Yes, they did. Either way, however, not shearing domestic sheep is harmful to them, and I’ve personally seen the molestation “argument” appear in response to such a statement in the past.
Someone who’s more informed might respond with something about the selective breeding. Plenty will still respond with the same energy already seen within this thread.
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
I didn’t choose to ignore anything. I just have a life outside of being an annoying vegan.
You already knew what I was going to say, though. I’m personally against wool products because they breed sheep specifically to grow unhealthy amounts of wool and once the few good coats they have in them are gone they send them off to be killed for food anyway.
Sheep can also be mistreated during the shearing process, and since shearers are often paid per sheep they’re incentivised to rush through them.
I’m not going to use the word rape here since I don’t think it applies.
Have I activated any trap cards?
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
There’s nothing wrong with shearing sheep if there’s no exploitation occurring. The problem is when you add a profit motive to keep breeding animals designed with their exploitation in mind.
However, I’m going to go out on limb here, and there probably aren’t many sheep in the care of vegans except on animal sanctuaries. The important thing is to stop buying wool and funding animal exploitation.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I think one should only be allowed to shear sheep if they’re either not breeding their sheep, or breeding them to produce more manageable coats like in the wild. Ideally our sheep population would be much lower and the animals would naturally be healthy. So people should only be allowed to extract labour value from their sheep if they’re working to reduce exploitation.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Go on, chuck a few slices of bacon in the pan for me.
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MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I, too, kill people to spite other people I don’t like. One time a woman cut me off in traffic, so I murdered my girlfriend and buried her in the backyard to piss that driver off
iiGxC@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
vegans are insufferable to animal abusers the way environmentalists are insufferable to climate change deniers
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no one likes animal abuse
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
They might not like it but they sure do tolerate it happening to an animal they like the taste of and don’t actually have to see it themselves.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
you tolerate it to the exact same degree. if you want to stop animal abuse, you need to go to where they are being abused and stop it.
iiGxC@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
People who eat animal products support it tho
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no one supports animal abuse
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Could have fooled me looking at this thread