I came up with an idea recently so I just have to ask: are you a false flag? Your behavior doesn’t serve to make anyone more open to your position. In fact, it serves the exact opposite purpose. So, really, are you a false flag trying to make people less receptive to veganism as a whole or what?
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yesman@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This is ironic because the argument concedes vegan ideology, it’s just attacks them for not doing more. At this point the carnists are not really arguing, they’re negotiating terms of surrender.
Most meat consumers already suspect vegans are right. We get aggravated because we’d rather ignore that question. And a vegan threatens to force the issue, even in our own mind. If you’ve ever wondered why vegans inspire automatic hostility, ridicule, and derision it’s because they threaten a carnists identity as a good person just by existing.
Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 1 week ago
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Yep, we’re from the meat lobby and we’re here to make sure nobody eats vegetables. Please don’t eat vegetables, it’ll be so bad for shareholder value!
Clent@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Nope. Vegans are fine. Veganist like you are religious nut jobs. You’ve created narratives and then act like anyone who doesn’t agree with you is the bad guy. Not unlike the far right or any other extremist group.
That feeling of your existence being a threat is the same feeling any other authoritarian feels.
yesman@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You seem a little defensive. Threatened even.
Clent@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’m sure you perceive it that way, as you already said you perceive being a threat. You appear to take pride in it.
Couldn’t be less threatened by you. Your abstinence reduces price competition for meat products. You are restricting yourself such that it benefits me.
The real threat in this regard are the boomers who eat more meat products than other generations.
I feel I should donate a quarter head of beef to a local food pantry in your name as tribute and to show there are no ill feelings. At least from me. I doubt you feel the same towards me.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
“I’m going to pay a killer to give me a corpse in your name just to spite you, but I’m going to pretend I’m doing you a favour even though I hate it. Because I’m NOT an asshole. Doing people fake favours they don’t want is what non-assholes do.”
wafflez@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Vegans are abstaning, you are acting. Supporting animal agriculture makes you the aggressor. The animals are the victims.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
It’s your own conscience calling you the bad guy, dipshit. Stop projecting.