All of them.
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MudMan@fedia.io 5 months ago
So... which education system would that be?
I acknowledge that online the assumption is whenever you see memes like these it's always about the US, but maybe having that assumption is me internalizing that weirdness?
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
MudMan@fedia.io 5 months ago
Oh, ok. So no problem, then.
I mean, if all of them are like that then it's a fundamental, intrinsic problem of growing up and learning things and there's nothing to be done. No point complaining.
But I don't think you mean that, to be perfectly honest.
feedmecontent@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not true. The state of the art of education is in a certain place where education systems that are doing the best anyone is doing are still doing so with ableist discrimination forward. Those looking to the “most successful” education systems will be imitating these practices as well. The current best is far from the best it could be though, and things could be changed radically to remove that ableist discrimination.
MudMan@fedia.io 5 months ago
Oh, that one is unexpected. You've managed to blend both "if it's not perfect it's just as bad as ours" and "nobody has ever done it right" in a single argument.
That's kind of impressive, actually.
Again, who are we talking about and what problems are we identifying? Because I find it hard to believe that in a whole-ass planet where hundreds of countries and private institutions have their own distinct take on how to do this (never mind all the ones that came before the current ones) this is simultaneously simply impossible to get right but also so easy that it can be condensed in a one panel comic strip-slash-one paragraph social media post.
sparkle@lemm.ee 5 months ago
The way we do education is based on fundamentally flawed concepts, from the grading systems we use to the clear design towards specifically neurotypical (and usually more privileged) children. This is just true everywhere. Childhood psychology/developmental psychology and education are pretty complicated and poorly understood by most of the public, even educators.
MudMan@fedia.io 5 months ago
This is just repeating what I originally said, but hear me out. Who is "we"?
I mean, this very nice lady even says at around the 35 minute mark that "there are plenty of schools that don't grade their students and have great college acceptance rates", which makes me think she thinks her "we" may not be your "we". She definitely doesn't seem to think that "we" is "all of them".
So who is "we"?
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
What education system is completely fair and equal in means for children?
MudMan@fedia.io 5 months ago
Are you American? Because "if it's not perfect it's just as bad as ours" is something I hear a lot from Americans and don't think that's how this works.
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Nope.
But as long as that holds true, there will be children who cannot easily fit through the hole.
MudMan@fedia.io 5 months ago
Seems to me like the size of the hole matters here. If I had to choose between a pinprick and a massive Hobbit door I know which one I'd prefer, even if they're both circles. You know, to torture the metaphor a bit further.
eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 months ago
One where profit motive doesn’t exist and the exams are only a minor fraction of the passing rubrics.