Comment on Reform UK pulls to within two points of Tories in latest YouGov poll
Wanderer@lemm.ee 3 months agoYou’re all so close minded.
You think I’m something I’m not. Economically left and low immigration has historically gone hand in hand. I’m like that. So I have to make a choice.
I’ll take long term gains of low immigration over short term gains from economics.
You should really look into what the left is about. Its more than just the current parties and current mental vocal lefties.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Dismissing cartoonish bullshit like ‘the left restricts labor while the right just loves FREEDOM!’ is not close-mindedness.
My fat ass.
Every single post you’ve made here is bog-standard right-wing rhetoric. Fuck off with it.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Why is there an American on here so vocal about British politics? I guess in the American way you know more about foreign countries than the locals?
Of course they do that’s their point. They want freedom from government restriction.
Here is a thought. Left wing votes are decreasing and right wing votes are increasing. How is this possible? Have left wing people been magically replaced, or have people that voted left moved to voting for the right?
If you make the completely logical conclusion than some left wing voter must now be voting for the right. Then why is it so hard for you to accept I’m one of them?
Just take a step back for a moment and actually consider the possibility I have switched from a left wing voter to a right wing voter. Now holding that position what would make me switch votes? Maybe just do that as a little thought experiment.
I have voted green and I have voted plaid. Both of which are left. I think green policies are largely going to be solved economically, at least the short term with things happening now. See Tony Seba, see my post history. So voting green doesn’t do much. Plaid won’t win majority so voting for them won’t achieve anything. The biggest issue for the common working man (left views) is lowering immigration. The best thing for business and land owners is raising immigration. Immigration right now should be a left wing policy. If you want the lower classes to be better off at the expense of the rich and business then vote against immigration.
Do I think reform will win? No. But did UKIP win? No. Did UKIP achieve their goals? Yes, so hopefully they do again.
Me voting Green and Plaid didn’t cause them to achieve their goals but people voting for UKIP did. I hope the sane happens again with Reform.
Also I did vote remain.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
The bare fucking basics of leftism should be far more well-known to you lot than to us - yet here you are still pretending conservatives anywhere give a flying fuck about their stated ideals. Have you literally never seen an actual socialist discuss politics? On Lemmy?
Populism equals leftism, apparently. That’s never gone wrong in Europe.
That’s why right-wing parties want open borders, yeah? Oh no wait they’re demonizing minorities because fuck you why am I humoring this. You’re dumb enough to believe the promises of diet Nazis and wish them well.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Lol socialists. They are delusional. Can’t see basic facts in front of their faces. I should have paid attention to the sub’s you go in. You’re completely brainwashed. It was apparent when you didn’t actually try or want to learn anything from me. You made your mind up and you stuck with it no matter what I said. That is not a healthy mindset, you should work on that. Try see what people are trying to tell, you look at other sides.
Even know you can’t even try and think about how anyone would ever change their mind on anything. That’s not good.
Yes I have argued with loads. I actually have a degree in economics but none of them want to understand basic economic theory. Like you, they have an opinion and nothing else matters. Not other peoples views, not other countries, not other situations not fact. Nothing all that matters is their brainwashed position is repeated.
For the record, but I know you will live in denial. I believe in high taxes, high government spending, LVT, free education and healthcare, subsidised public transport, subsidised training, externalities in general, house building programmes, in the future UBI, money for families and teens. But all of that is insignificant the mismanagement of immigration the UK currently has, so I’m going to vote for stopping immigration. The other policies can wait.
But lol socialism. I’ll die to stop that. What a terrible idea that is.