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Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, most historical settings had some non zero number of black people.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you’re passing them off as just regular people nbd in that setting then yeah that’d be inaccurate.

    Then again, plopping in random white people into an Ancient Chinese setting would be pretty inaccurate too, even though there might’ve been “some non zero number” of whites over there at the time. Or in a random crowd shot of Nazi soldiers you plop in a few black soldiers. Certainly existed, but it does make it seem inaccurate (and silly imo).

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    • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I see somebody used Gemini image generation…

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s all about diversity in my Nazi soldier representation. The Asian woman was top tier decision from Gemini

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    • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ancient China did have a lot of Central Asian and Turkic white people. Red hair, blue eyes and all. They just weren’t European whites.

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think the implication of European whites was clear from the comment though

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  • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Most historical settings”

    Roman sure, especially as you get closer to Africa but nonzero elsewhere also

    Middle ages, mediæval and renaissance almost certainly limited to higher nobility households either as nobles or “interesting” servants or major trading ports, especially closer to Africa.

    The chances of a mediæval serf in a germanic country are functionally zero though, as anyone who came with the Romans will have been long dead with their genetics widely dispersed, and anyone who came over recently would likely be in an urban area, with marriage or higher level employment being their only chance to end up in a rural area.

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• EpeeGnome@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you mean what I think you mean, then you’re being down voted because your phrasing isn’t clear. I interpreted your comment to mean that removal any of dark skinned characters would often make the depiction less historically accurate, due to their historical presence as a minority of some sort across much of medieval Europe. If so, I agree that is amusingly ironic.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m saying that depicting black people as a normal feature of Medieval Europe would be huge stretch. Whether that should stop people from doing so, I don’t really care about that. Accuracy isn’t exactly the only thing to consider in such situations.

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