You are using a different definition of trick than the one in the person you are replying to. Every demonstration of magic thus far has involved hiding information from the person the magic is being performed for, to make it look like something was done that was not, in fact, done.
“Tautological denial of magic” seems like a total misunderstanding of the scientific method. If you know there’s something “magical” you still can study it’s effects on the real world.
Like someone here already commented, this is what we do in case of medical studies, “how good does this thing work compared to something that gives the illusion of working”, the same can be done for whatever you define as your “magic”.
Yes, exactly. And that’s what chaos magic is. Taking the scientific method to magic. The tautological denial says magic can’t be real, because if it’s real then it’s not magic. But no, magic is real and we can explain it and quantify it and use the scientific method on it.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Google the tautological denial of magic and then tell me how Randi’s prize doesn’t rely on it.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Randi doesn’t need to rely on it.
The only thing he has to do is explain how the magic trick works.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
An ollie is a trick. Debunk an ollie for me.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 year ago
You are using a different definition of trick than the one in the person you are replying to. Every demonstration of magic thus far has involved hiding information from the person the magic is being performed for, to make it look like something was done that was not, in fact, done.
vfosnar@beehaw.org 1 year ago
“Tautological denial of magic” seems like a total misunderstanding of the scientific method. If you know there’s something “magical” you still can study it’s effects on the real world.
Like someone here already commented, this is what we do in case of medical studies, “how good does this thing work compared to something that gives the illusion of working”, the same can be done for whatever you define as your “magic”.
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Yes, exactly. And that’s what chaos magic is. Taking the scientific method to magic. The tautological denial says magic can’t be real, because if it’s real then it’s not magic. But no, magic is real and we can explain it and quantify it and use the scientific method on it.