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As a trans person, I fucking hate Elon Musk. But as a chaos magician, I gotta take his side on this debate. Mainstream scientific publications won’t take research that’s sufficiently “silly” or “esoteric”, and magic falls under these even when the scientific method is used. Now, many people have published works on chaos magic such as books, but not so much with publishing in reputable scientific journals.

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AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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vfosnar@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
…wikipedia.org/…/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Ch…

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- MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Google the tautological denial of magic and then tell me how Randi’s prize doesn’t rely on it.
  
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  - Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Randi doesn’t need to rely on it.
    
    The only thing he has to do is explain how the magic trick works.
    
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    MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    An ollie is a trick. Debunk an ollie for me.
    
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  - vfosnar@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    “Tautological denial of magic” seems like a total misunderstanding of the scientific method. If you know there’s something “magical” you still can study it’s effects on the real world.
    
    Like someone here already commented, this is what we do in case of medical studies, “how good does this thing work compared to something that gives the illusion of working”, the same can be done for whatever you define as your “magic”.
    
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    MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, exactly. And that’s what chaos magic is. Taking the scientific method to magic. The tautological denial says magic can’t be real, because if it’s real then it’s not magic. But no, magic is real and we can explain it and quantify it and use the scientific method on it.
    
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