Comment on Cannabis

Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species

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  • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.

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    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, the different strains absolutely have some differences, and I’m not trying to say it’s all bullshit. Weed is awesome, and we should document new stuff as it comes along, but we need to remember that it’s all a single plant. I’d say weed is like the apple of drugs

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    • aStonedSanta@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes. Some strains smell like a baby just shit kn a diaper and some smell like a fresh cut mango mixed with some pine needles lol. Flavor also vastly different! It’s a wonderful plant to explore

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  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence

    This is incorrect. Cannabis is the family designation where Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis are the species designations.

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    • aStonedSanta@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is debated. But this string is an explanation of recently debate. Whether it’s all sativa or there are the three sub species. I prefer the sub species route myself.

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  • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What do you mean by “same plant”? They are different species.

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    • RadicalEagle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word “species” has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.

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      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They are the same species by the scientific definition

        Seems there there is very much a debate about it and they are either considered seperate species, subspecies or a single one.

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    • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, they’re not. Industrial hemp is also Cannabis sativa.

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    • Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis)

      Species[1]

      Cannabis sativa L.
      Cannabis indica Lam.
      Cannabis ruderalis Janisch
      

      Taxonomy is difficult, and we're still figuring it all out.

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      • valaramech@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn't even consensus on Wikipedia.

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      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My point exactly. That’s why I find it a bit strange that the post and some comments here act like it’s a certainty.

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    • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here. If they can breed and their offspring is fertile, they’re the same species.

      QED, Spock is sterile.

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      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here

        And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons … but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!

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• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The post is wrong. Indica is a species of Cannabis.

  Cannabis is the family, while Indica or Sativa are the species.

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  • EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The part directly above the species is the genus. Family comes after that, and is Cannabaceae in this case.

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  • Kroxx@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah but the original cannabis indica described has none of the physical characteristics of what it does today, there is not a genetic difference between sativa and indica that is sold in the cannabis market today.

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• worldwidewave@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As I read it, it’s basically saying there’s only one kind of red wine: red. You’re right, but you’re ignoring all of the subcategories that the typical consumers use to talk about it.

  Weed smokers typically consider strains to be either Indica or Sativa, but there’s a whole debate about if those are real differences at all. The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa, hence why this statement is true.

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  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa,

    The plant’s family is Cannabis. The plant’s species is either Indica, Ruderalis or Sativa.

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• pudcollar@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think the confusion is that there are two well-known subgroups of cannabis sativa, indica and sativa (ruderalis is more obscure). So the species and subgroup have the same name.

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