Comment on Bing outage shows just how little competition Google search really has

samc@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• hedge@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Seems like most search engines these days are primarily Google-based or Bing-based. Mojeek has its own crawler, I think…

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  • brie@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Alexandria and Stract use their own open source crawlers. Brave is also independent, if I recall correctly.

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    • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Brave does have an option to use anonymous Google results as a fallback if their index doesn’t return enough results, but it will ask you before it does it.

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  • Mojeek@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is correct, we are independent and have been since all the way back in 2004, 8bn-page index and growing 😀

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    • Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I just read your profile and can’t believe you guys have been on lemmy for 3 years. What made you guys join before lemmy got popular?

      ~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~

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      • Mojeek@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        people interested in alternative search tend to be in spaces that aren’t your GAFAM big tech networks, we’ve been on masto since 2018 also

        not to come off as overly dismissive of people elsewhere, but you also find that the quality of discourse and people’s willingness to think about things are both considerably more elevated

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    • hedge@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      🙂👍

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  • readbeanicecream@kbin.earth ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nice! Mojeek looks great. Thanks for the tip!

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  • doxxx@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Kagi.com has its own I believe. But you have to pay a subscription to use it.

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    • Mindless_Enigma@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My understanding is that Kagi relies on the likes of Bing and Google but since it uses more than one of them it can keep functioning if one goes down.

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      • doxxx@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        TIL. I thought they had their own crawler. I’m a little disappointed.

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• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m one of those guys. Searx itself is just a meta search engine, using Google and many other search engines. You don’t need to dive into any rabbit hole, just use a pre existing server for easy access. From time to time I switch the instance. You can then still decide if you want go the full rabbit hole and host it yourself, but that is not a requirement. At least its fully open source and your data/search queries are not sent to Google or Microsoft. In the settings can be specified which engines you want to use:

  Try it out here: searx.space and for some information about SearxNG: docs.searxng.org

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  • jherazob@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wait, it supports bangs? That’s the #1 thing that keeps me specifically with DDG, once i have some time i’ll have to explore this (probably not earlier than a couple weeks though)

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    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was used to the bangs in DuckDuckGo too, but stopped using them. In example I have duckduckgo search engine disabled here, but can still do a ddg only search with !ddg hello . But don’t get your hopes too high, because I think it only supports the few bangs and nothing else. It does not support ddg bangs. I registered a DuckDuckGo bang !retro to point to RetroPie forum, but it does not work in Searx.

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      • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That combination works in Brave to search the forum, I’m surprised it doesn’t in Searx.

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    • mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Alternative you may consider is the brave search. Supports many bangs (?all of what ddg supports). It is independent of other search engines as well. But its picture search is poor.

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  • baggins@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thank you.

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  • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve switched to this from DuckDuckGo right during the downtime and, so far, it’s been working out great.

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• ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Doesn’t searx just aggregate google and bing for you?

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  • mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Google, Bing, and a plethora of others.

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  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can turn off Google if you want and use whatever engines you like.

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• abies_exarchia@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Literally did this this morning and now searx is the default search engine on all my devices. Works great so far

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