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• realbadat@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  When those are just the precursors to the horrible murder, I’d have to say yes, magnitudes worse.

  Because on one hand you get brutally murdered, and on the other you get brutally raped and brutally murdered.

  Makes perfect sense to me.

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  • Kacarott@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So to be clear, when something is magnitudes more than something else, that means on the scale of 100-1000x more, or even higher powers of ten. If rape + murder is magnitudes worse than murder, then definitionally rape alone must also be magnitudes worse than murder.

    Of course multiple atrocities are worse than a single atrocity, but talking about one being magnitudes worse than the other, to me seems to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.

    For example, to me “murder is magnitudes worse than petty theft” would be an appropriate use of the word.

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    • realbadat@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m aware of the definition of the word, yes. And I stand by what I said.

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      • Kacarott@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Then I think I’m not understanding something here, maybe you can explain (asking genuinely). Because it seems to me that what you said doesn’t make sense with the definition of the word?

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• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  sounds like you are trying to say that kidnap and rape are magnitudes more horrible than being horribly murdered?

  that’s a bingo. Kidnap, imprisonment and rape are worse, in my opinion, than just being murdered.

  And it’s hardly an isolated incident:

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Kidnapping_of_Tanya_Nicole_Kac…

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Kampusch

  en.wikipedia.org/…/Kidnapping_of_Jaycee_Dugard

  voi.id/en/memori/5584

  6abc.com/…/14716082/

  cbsnews.com/…/elk-grove-kidnapping-rape-assault-s…

  just a few moments search. I’m certain there’s far more. <barf>

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  • Kacarott@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It wasn’t whether they are worse, but if they are magnitudes worse. If the kidnap, imprisonment and rape of one person is comparable to the murder of hundreds or thousands of people (since that would be magnitudes more).

    In my opinion to call one magnitudes worse than the other is to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      magnitudes

      I mean, one death by bear, vs., years of imprisonment and repeated sexual assault with no end in site. seems like magnitudes of difference to me. YMMV

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      • Kacarott@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Ah ok. I was thinking of specific instances rather than an indefinitely long situation, so I see where you are coming from now.

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