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mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 month agoa bear will kill you, perhaps horribly.
a bear will not kidnap you, rape you, and keep you in a cage.
I’m frankly amazed I have to keep explaining the order of magnitude difference in the horror of wildlife vs. horrible humans.
Kacarott@feddit.de 1 month ago
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but it sounds like you are trying to say that kidnap and rape are magnitudes more horrible than being horribly murdered?
realbadat@programming.dev 1 month ago
When those are just the precursors to the horrible murder, I’d have to say yes, magnitudes worse.
Because on one hand you get brutally murdered, and on the other you get brutally raped and brutally murdered.
Makes perfect sense to me.
Kacarott@feddit.de 1 month ago
So to be clear, when something is magnitudes more than something else, that means on the scale of 100-1000x more, or even higher powers of ten. If rape + murder is magnitudes worse than murder, then definitionally rape alone must also be magnitudes worse than murder.
Of course multiple atrocities are worse than a single atrocity, but talking about one being magnitudes worse than the other, to me seems to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.
For example, to me “murder is magnitudes worse than petty theft” would be an appropriate use of the word.
realbadat@programming.dev 1 month ago
I’m aware of the definition of the word, yes. And I stand by what I said.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
that’s a bingo. Kidnap, imprisonment and rape are worse, in my opinion, than just being murdered.
And it’s hardly an isolated incident:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case
en.wikipedia.org/…/Kidnapping_of_Tanya_Nicole_Kac…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Kampusch
en.wikipedia.org/…/Kidnapping_of_Jaycee_Dugard
voi.id/en/memori/5584
6abc.com/…/14716082/
cbsnews.com/…/elk-grove-kidnapping-rape-assault-s…
just a few moments search. I’m certain there’s far more. <barf>
Kacarott@feddit.de 1 month ago
It wasn’t whether they are worse, but if they are magnitudes worse. If the kidnap, imprisonment and rape of one person is comparable to the murder of hundreds or thousands of people (since that would be magnitudes more).
In my opinion to call one magnitudes worse than the other is to immensely downplay the seriousness of the other.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean, one death by bear, vs., years of imprisonment and repeated sexual assault with no end in site. seems like magnitudes of difference to me. YMMV