The discussion is about 💵💵, not about people.
if tariffs were a response to human rights violations, check the UN’s list of HR violations and compare with how many have caused import tariffs anywhere in the world, ever.
tardigrada@beehaw.org 5 months ago
This is related, particularly as the discussion is to a large part around cheap cars:
China: Carmakers Implicated in Uyghur Forced Labor - (February 2024)
China’s electric vehicle battery supply chain shows signs of forced labor, report says - (June 2023)
jarfil@beehaw.org 5 months ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
To be fair to China, our top EV maker (Tesla) claimed that COVID wasn’t real and didn’t want to shut down operations and Musk claimed he liked China more because of their propensity to lock the workers in the factory due to COVID restrictions.
The people who run US companies will absolutely used forced labor if they can get away with it.
I’m not trying to paint China as some glowing bastion of freedom (it’s far from it, obviously) but it’s weird to present this as though it’s a “China” problem and not a “capitalism” problem. Companies like Nestle won’t commit to removing forced labor from their chains of operation, hiding behind “it’s too hard to find it all!”
reuters.com/…/hershey-nestle-cargill-win-dismissa…
The lawsuit being dismissed is evidence the US government also doesn’t care about forced labor.
Every major world power is some kind of dogshit, essentially.
tardigrada@beehaw.org 5 months ago
They have to stop the use of forced labour in China, the U.S. and wherever this bs happens. This “U.S. bad, China bad okay” stance is unbearable.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
No shit they need to stop it. Do you or I have a choice in making that happen?
Short of a nationwide labor strike in every industry in both nations, no one citizen exactly has the power to make this stop, and all the legal avenues to make it stop are denied by both governments.
I love it when people complain shit needs to get done when there is no legal avenue to getting it done. Cool, what’s your plan chucklefuck?
They both suck because they fucking do. Part of the reason they do is that there is no recourse for regular citizens to stop this kind of thing from happening except boycotts and labor strikes. Boycotts do fuck-all because they’re busy selling the fruits of their forced labor to the rest of the planet, meaning they won’t lose enough money from the boycott to impact them. Meaning only labor strikes have meaningful impact.
NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 5 months ago
You’re an asshole
TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 5 months ago
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