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Comment on Daily discussion thread: 🦈 Monday, May 13, 2024

UN won’t kick you out for being a genocidal dick, you want dicks to retain UN membership so everyone can yell at them - it’s a place where everyone uses their words instead of nukes

With respect, if thats the plan its a shit one. Sure, no one has dropped the hammer yet, but aint done shit all for the suffering.

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Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The purpose of the UN is to get people talking in a room, as opposed to standing on opposite sides of the battlefield. To try and talk it out.

It’s not perfect. nothing involving humans is. People seem to think it’s like World Police but it’s not.

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- TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  The purpose of the UN is to get people talking in a room,
  
  till one of the permanent members of the security council use their veto anyway.
  
  People seem to think it’s like World Police but it’s not.
  
  But hear me out, what if it was? Syria. Ukraine. Palestine/Israel. Georgia. Somalia. Civilians dead under the current system. I get nothings perfect, but fuck man we gotta do better than this.
  
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  - Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The veto only applies to security council, not geberal assembly and is a bit of a two edged sword.
    
    But in regards to world police? You’re trying to use a drill as a hammer. It’s not designed for that.
    
    Ok, UN as a world police. How does that work? What actions do they take now?
    
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    TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    a drastic rethink of global politics. Real world economic consequences for failing to uphold to a reinvigorated UN rights charter. Treat rights, healthcare, environment, and liberty as ACTUAL enshrined rights of the charter. ACTUALLY enforce it, dont stand around making speeches that amount to fuck all. You wanna invade a neighbor? No worries! But oh btw your cut off from international trade. You wanna be an authoritarian dictator? Go nuts. But we will have a combined strike force knocking on the door politely asking you come with us to face an international court.
    
    NEVER gonna happen. Totally understand that. Would require countries seceding authority to the UN. And we cant even get this shit working at a country level let alone globally. But this is just my bullshit ideas as neither a geopolitical expert or lawyer, there has to be better options. I refuse to believe we cant do better than what we have now.
    
    We let Perfect become the enemy of good.
    
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