Thank you, this is a very good explanation of something I failed to mention.
Comment on How come liberals dont hate conservatives the way conservatives hate liberals
JoBo@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Because there is no mirror image.
@pjwestin@lemmy.world has given you a good description of fascist methods. They’re not available to the opponents of fascism because they are not fascists.
Fascism appeals to the worst parts of our nature. It gives permission to those feeling fear, humiliation or shame to lash out in anger and destroy the people that make them feel that way.
You can’t deploy the same tactics to make those people want to be on your side instead. If you try to shame them, they will just hate harder.
You should, of course, expose and ridicule the grifters who lead fascist movements and punching fascists is encouraged. But you need to distinguish between authoritarian leaders and the people they seek to lead.
You should not pander to the billionaire-funded leaderships (take note NYT), but you must not sneer at the people they are trying to lead (take note centrist Dems).
pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Why the hell do you want them on our side? Why dont you want to destroy them? Thats exactly what Im asking about, where is the hate?
JoBo@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Because handing election victories to fascists is a really, really bad idea.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They’ll just abandon democracy and go for force if they lose. We’re past the point of law, brawn and control are what matters rn
JoBo@feddit.uk 7 months ago
You think there’s going to be civil war and also, you want to maximise the numbers fighting for the fascists. Cool, cool.
orcrist@lemm.ee 7 months ago
“So I guess this is where I tell you what I learned - my conclusion, right? Well, my conclusion is: Hate is baggage. Life’s too short to be pissed off all the time. It’s just not worth it.” ― American History X
“I am not altogether on anybody’s side, because nobody is altogether on my side, if you understand me: nobody cares for the woods as I care for them, not even Elves nowadays.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers
ZDL@ttrpg.network 5 months ago
To amplify from the other side of the world:
善為士者，不武；善戰者，不怒；善勝敵者，不與；善用人者，為之下。是謂不爭之德，是謂用人之力，是謂配天古之極。 —老子
A good scholar is not a warrior; A good fighter is not angry; Those who are good at defeating enemies will not compete with them; Those who make good use of people are inferior. It is called the virtue of not competing, the power of using people, and the extreme of matching heaven and ancient times. —Laozi
ken_cleanairsystems@lemmy.sdf.org 7 months ago
Small correction: “… destroy the people that they think make them feel that way”.