Comment on Why? There is enough space on the parking lot

• dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  The design failure is not following parking lot design best practices and installing parking stoppers or bollards on spaces that are directly next a walkway. People are going to pull forward to the only point of reference they have which, because there are no lines or stoppers, is the sidewalk curb.

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  • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    so if you park your car you just drive forward until you hit a concrete block or the curb?

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    • jarfil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Isn’t that why cars have “bumpers”? To “bump” into things?.. /s

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• GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  No one is “being an asshole” they are just trying to “park all the way in”. A block is specifically there to communicate AND enforce that

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  • zloubida@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    To try to park all the way in is an asshole move.

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      A normally zoned, and properly provisioned parking spot has a stop, and would never be designed where cars would block pedestrian access.

      It is normal to pull in and expect a stop point.

      Depending on size or design of car you may be accustomed to not hitting the stop block (low car, small car, etc), but you would, as the driver, assume you are not inappropriately “in” if you HAVEN’T touched the (in this case inexistent) stop block.

      All of these drivers subconsciously believe they are comfortably in the spot, without sticking out front or back. Because of this one of them have any suspicion they need to look to double check.

      One of the core principles of car and pedestrian cohabitation is to use barriers and information to keep cars and pedestrians separated, without relying on the “common sense” of the driver.

      Drivers do not have “common sense” of a heavy machine, and must be separated from impinging on pedestrians.

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      • TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I think this stop is something very American. In Europe it’s very rare to see a stop for the cars. You just learn to drive correctly. American drivers are just worse at driving than European ones, because your streets and parking spaces and literally anything else car related is just huge. And same with parking spaces. You are used to having a stop, so you only learn how to park correctly if there is a stop.

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      • zloubida@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        It’s always other’s fault, isn’t it? No, it’s not. They’re the drivers.

        They drive a heavy machine, like you said, so they should act like it. Be responsible. Always double check. Be respectful and prudent.

        Stop blocks are good things, sure, but their existence is not an excuse to park recklessly.

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    • uberkalden@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Jesus Christ. Touch grass man. It’s not that serious

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      • zloubida@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Try to walk on this this kind of sidewalk with a stroller and a walking child and you’ll understand why it is serious. Or try to pass it in a wheelchair.

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