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flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

OK, let me rephrase this into “if you are … you will be as likely as cishet women to find someone to date”. My point was that cishet men may have it hard to find someone because they are not catching up with progressive and emancipatory values. There are many many heteropessimisstic or otherwise frustrated women out there searching for a guy that does not treat them like shit.

But sure, if you don’t have the capacity for a social life or for dating then obviously this won’t be as easy. My comment was a response to the premise that cishet guys have it harder in dating and that they should be allowed to scam people.

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Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

My point was that cishet men may have it hard to find someone because they are not catching up with progressive and emancipatory values.

It’s worse than that - things seem to be regressing, with a widening political divide between men and women, especially noticeable in the younger adults.

It definitely feels like the modest progress that was made is now being eroded away

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- flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah, it’s pretty disheartening and even frightening. I don’t know how to educate men on feminist ideas and get them on board. And being antifeminist doesn’t even benefit them that much. There are so many men living their life miserable and ending up in jail because of their toxic masculinity and societal expectations of men. And I’m certainly interested in helping cis men get better, reconnect with their emotions and learn about emancipation. But at the same time I don’t see how much people who are not cis men can do so much to really help them. We are pretty busy surviving them and supporting each other.
  
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  - Emperor@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    And being antifeminist doesn’t even benefit them that much.
    
    The only people benefitting are those peddling the lies to disgruntled young men, partly as a grift and partly as misdirection from the real sources of their issues.
    
    But at the same time I don’t see how much people who are not cis men can do so much to really help them.
    
    And it shouldn’t be your job to fix young men but I am as stumped as you and I worry about people like my nephew who is early teens.
    
    There’s !mensliberation@lemmy.ca / !menslib@lemmygrad.ml but I don’t know if that’s not just preaching to the converted.
    
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    flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, it is really a frustrating situation. Since you seem to be a man, maybe you can be a good example to your nephew? But well, not so easy either unfortunately :(
    
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