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redempt@lemmy.world 6 months ago“collective ownership” is not vague. the simplest way to transform capitalism into socialism is to make every company a co-op and implement progressive tax policy.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 months ago
;D Maybe if your understanding of economy does not go beyond people in factories make things :D
I mean, you have no right to act this clueless when the mai post gives one of the issues away. How do you get investments into new companies? Or are we done inventing new thing?
redempt@lemmy.world 6 months ago
dude you’re insufferable oml
investments can come from public funding for research which is democratically decided or headed by democratically elected experts
the entire ideology I hold is that people need to be directly involved in economic decision making. that is all. it can’t be held away from the people, because then the decisions won’t benefit them.
can you please not act like such a prick when making your points?
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Bot those are details you are leaving out. How is this public funding collected, who decides where it goes, how are these people elected.
These are the kind of things you need to figure out. My belief is you can’t, because it does not work. You will not be able to create a system that works for the greater good.
But maybe I am wrong. Prove me wrong. Show me a detailed plan. “Some committee will distribute some funding” is so vague there is no way to debate over it.
redempt@lemmy.world 6 months ago
okay, why are you imposing that on me though? I’m not a violent revolutionary, I’m just someone who believes we need a far more democratic approach to our economy. I can’t resolve a perfect system for you in perfect detail and I find this kind of argument frustrating. if you want an example of a system, I believe something similar to project cybersyn would be great. unfortunately the US has overthrown or otherwise stunted every socialist project, but we have lots of data to suggest that UBI, co-ops, and social welfare are highly effective at improving quality of life for everybody, as well as productivity.