Well you offhandedly gave “elon bad” memes precedence over actual critiques being offered, nobody who actually cares about this moon thing gives a damn about elon memes, so I expect to discuss the merits of the mission plan off its merits alone.

Smartereveryday was largely on about culture at NASA from what I remember from that video. That and the lack of hypergolics.

It may be a long watch but please actually watch the whole thing, he’s very well spoken and ultimately optimistic (as am I) about going back. But I am certain he had more to mention that just hypergolics. I can list a few

• astronaut access to the surface
• stability on landing with a high COM
• number of refuels necessary given nominal boiloff
• lack of a mockup vehicle for astronaut training
• undemonstrated orbital refueling (no bleeding the header tank is not a fuel transfer as per flight 3)
• yes the hypergolics, you don’t want to be stuck on the moon.

If these are “intentionally obtuse” points, well then welcome to aerospace engineering, its called rocket science for a reason.

And Destins point about the culture? People aren’t speaking their critiques when they’re most necessary to hear, people are afraid to speak. How does that contribute to a program which may or may not have flaws (that could be remedied), when no flaws are at least pointed out? Well look at Boeing for one.

The fact you don’t know how risky Apollo was to the astronauts shows you don’t know much about this

I mentioned Apollo 1, right? Im pretty sure I mentioned Apollo one and how they perished on the pad and it nearly stopped the program. Now if you’re going to be intentially obtuse, then I bid you a good day.