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stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Veganism is like religion. As long as you keep it to yourself I couldn’t care less. But if you make it your personality or proselytize about it then I’ll probably think it’s fun to make fun of your whole thing.
Yeah, just like other kinds of animal abuse. I can’t stand anyone who speaks out against puppy mill, dog fighting, killing race horses, elephants in circuses, bear bile farming, the fur trade, poaching etc.
Like get a fucking life, they’re just there to be used. If you want to be some goody two shoes and give a shit about orangutans or whatever fine, be a stupid Puritan but don’t you dare try and stop me from setting up monkey knife fights.
Thing is, most people WOULD CARE if I treat a dog, cat, or any other cute animal the same way as dairy/meat industry does. Why doesn’t the “as long as you keep it to yourself” argument count in this case (might not be for you but for most people)?
It’s about philosophy/ethics and not religion.
It’s much more like politics than it is religion. People take a stance because of their values, ethics, mortality, etc (as opposed to religion which is generally a more irrational basis for belief). And the reasons for being loud about it follow from that.
So if you can understand why someone might proselytize about the situation in Gaza, then you should also understand why someone might proselytize for veganism, even if your views might align differently for different issues.
orphiebaby@lemm.ee 6 months ago
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I don’t think you’re evil. I think that like almost all vegans you were raised to be complicit in an evil system. You were fed propaganda, discouraged from questioning norms, had behaviours reenforced as wholesome and good from before you were even a conscious person.
I think you’re wrong, I think what you do is deeply harmful, I don’t have any respect for hiding from the truth, refusing to engage, and bad faith replies but I don’t think you’re evil.
Was every man who denied women votes evil? everyone involved in every war of aggression? every slaver that ever was? every bureaucrat of empire? They were wrong, selfish, engaged in motivate reasoning, and harmful. Some were probably evil, most were probably a little lazy or a little stupid. Unfortunately that’s all atrocity takes.
Kacarott@feddit.de 6 months ago
In seriousness, the reason people try spread vegan ideas is the exact same reason people try spread their political ideas: because they believe there is injustice in the world which they are trying to help fix.