I’m talking software/firmware in general, not just chat clients/protocols. As I said, you seem to need some perspective.
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Windex007@lemmy.world 2 months agoMy brother in Christ, IRC is a better tool.
Microsoft is failing to meet minimum standards of usability that has existed since the 80s
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol, this is such an absurd line of reasoning.
“This problem was solved in the 80s and then Microsoft bullied an inferior product into business space, and it impacts my work every single day”
And your response is “eat shit, some people have it worse?”
This isn’t the fucking pain Olympics and you don’t get a fucking medal for working on a worse stack.
This is a wildly toxic mindset and I promise your entire life will start to get better once you ditch it.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Wait, so me saying that Teams is not that bad relatively speaking is a toxic mindset? You do see the irony of flying handle at me to say that, right?
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“working with teams isn’t as bad as working with some software in a completely different domain”
Apples and oranges, reeks of “You can’t be cold because I live in Canada” energy, but ok, whatever.
“You need perspective”
Extremely condescending. Enforces the notion that nobody can dream of better things as long as other people (you specifically) see themselves are enduring something worse.
sep@lemmy.world 2 months ago
With the exception of the great split. And the freenode fiasco. IRC have been consistently fantastic for me since i logged on in ~93
Jejerod@feddit.de 2 months ago
You mean usability like nick collision, channel takeovers, absence of services, no support for media or files, disagreements in the community that lead to multiple separated IRC networks, fully visible client IPs, the joke the ident protocol was?
I understand not liking teams, or webex, or zoom. But IRC in the 80s is hardly an shining beacon of usability or standards.
pedz@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
There are modern IRC clients like TheLounge and Convos that support media and video. And push messages. You can also have your own internal server not exposed to the internet, this eliminating the problems of takeover, splits and whatnot…
Also the protocol has evolved and there’s been integrated options in the servers to hide IPs for at the least a decade.
You may remember those issues and problems when you abandoned it, but it contniues to evolve and endure. I have a private server for my friends and it’s been the most stable and direct way to chat and share images for years.
Jejerod@feddit.de 2 months ago
I have no doubt there are improved clients. But that is the problem. IRC is not standardized at all. Different clients give different results. Also, we are talking about IRC in the 80s, not today.
That’s very far away from good usability.
Original IRC also used 8bit text, so no unicode. Note I did not say ASCII, because IRC did not even defined encodings. Do you remember the pain of different Code pages on computers?
IRC as a protocol was basically a dumpster fire that somehow worked.
Don’t get me wrong, I loved IRC (using irssi on bash mostly). But I wouldn’t praise it for usability. At all. And I would never pretend IRC set standards for usability in the 80s.