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• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t want to do a job that a machine would do better than me.

  And then where do you think your income will come from? It won’t. Come from anywhere. You’ll just be out of a job, no longer able to afford rent or food, but don’t worry because for a brief moment, they really maximized shareholder value.

  Yeah, that’s my problem, and, on a broader scale, society’s problem. When enough people get hungry, things will have to change. The alternative is…doing pointless labor that a machine could do better, just to prop up a failed system. Forced inefficiency. How depressing is that?

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  • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well if the two options I have are: continue being able to afford to live while doing a job that can now be done by a machine, or to just let it happen with zero safety net and let the good vibes from the naive optimism of “if enough people go hungry, then things will have to change.” I’m sure that’ll be a great comfort in that time

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those are not your two options. Society will have to reform from technological pressure. Political activism, such as lobbying for a universal basic income, is part of this.

      Trying to fight progress just so you can keep your shitty job helps neither you nor society. That energy would be better spent on a future that’s an improvement for everybody.

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      • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It seems as though maybe you haven’t studied capitalism or, I dunno, human history?

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• TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re not doing work for free. That’s a really weird way to look at it. You’re doing it to gain access to a service, an entirely optional one. It’s somewhat believable when people say oh, yes I have a car but I have to have a car, I’d like not to. But nobody is required to use GMail to live.

  And yes, feel free to be an AI pessimist. You could quite well be right. It seems bizarre to me however to make an effort to sabotage this one specific AI training (which might stop cars from running us down) so that you can log into something which will also be used to train AI (to sell you shit). And then posting your opinion about it here, where it will be used to train an AI.

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  • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I feel like you think you just thought of something truly groundbreaking, “You criticize society yet you live in society. Curious.”

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    • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      … I don’t see how you can genuinely have understood that to be a point I was making. That’s the opposite of what I was saying. I even gave an example of how you might be forced to drive a car. Because you are in fact forced to live in society. But you are here on Lemmy so you must understand that you are not forced to use Gmail? So either you’re being disingenuous or you’re not actually reading all of what I’m posting. Given how you completely ignored the majority of my other post and went straight to “oH sO iF wE dO iT fOr 20 yEaRs”, I’m going with the latter.

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