Comment on Is there a more politically and ideologically diverse alternative for Lemmy?

• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t see climate change as an existential threat to the human race in a way something like nuclear war, a pandemic, asteroid or AI could be. It’s bad but it’s not that bad. I never really understood why so many seem to think this way when I don’t even hear scientists making such apocalyptic claims.

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  • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t see the actual climate change as an existential threat to the human race in a way something like nuclear war, a pandemic, asteroid or AI could be. It’s bad but it’s not that bad.

    “My ignorance is worth more than your knowledge.”

    washingtonpost.com/…/climate-change-ipcc-report-1…

    Beyond that threshold, scientists have found, climate disasters will become so extreme that people will not be able to adapt. Basic components of the Earth system will be fundamentally, irrevocably altered.

    The report reveals thresholds in how much warming people and ecosystems can adapt to. Some are “soft” limits — determined by shortcomings in political and social systems. For example, a low-income community that can’t afford to build flood controls faces soft limits to dealing with sea level rise.

    But beyond 1.5 degrees of warming, the IPCC says, humanity will run up against “hard limits” to adaptation. Temperatures will get too high to grow many staple crops. Droughts will become so severe that even the strongest water conservation measures can’t compensate. In a world that has warmed roughly 3 degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) — where humanity appears to be headed — the harsh physical realities of climate change will be deadly for countless plants, animals and people

    “I’ve never understood why…”

    And I can bet you never tried to understand.

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    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nothing in your post indicates an existential threat. Sure some places will become unhabitable but not the entire earth. I also don’t understand why you need to include the passive agressive and belittling tone instead of just making your point. People like you is why I’m considering leaving this platform. You make the experience worse for everyone.

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      • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because you’re a willfully ignorant dolt, that’s why the tone.

        People like you is why I’m considering leaving this platform.

        Good.

        People like you make the world worse for everyone.

        So you think AI is more of an existential threat to humanity than climate change? This informs me that you really think some Skynet type of shit is more likely to happen than extreme weather phenomena. Do you know what an ice-age is? Do you have any idea what it means when we don’t have enough water to grow crops? You think Alexa will hunt you down because you programmed it poorly, but you can’t understand why a category 4 hurricane is deadly af.

        Please, the faster you leave, the better. Head to Wikipedia to get rid of some of that ignorance. Here’s a few bit of material to get you started.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_rain en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change

        Perhaps you’re more of a… ehm “visual learner”. Here: https://youtu.be/n9Ej5E47TNI?si=OPHLSTvGZscsH4T1

        There’s a reason the deserts of our world aren’t populated, and I’m sure you can figure out what that reason is.

        “I don’t see an existential threat in permanently and majorly fucking up the only known world to support life” - You

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  • msage@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe I understood the situation too bleakly, but my impression was, that we are losing topsoil (used to grow almost all our food), biodiversity is plummeting (which can trigger chain reaction of massive die-offs), the ice is melting (blue ocean event, likely irreversible) causing billions of people to lose their homes, and depleting aquifies (drinking water). Hotter climate will cause runaway effects, that will multiply all of this, which could lead to decimating most of life in the oceans (food for majority of people), meaning more hungry people inland, politically already unstable, now without soil, water, and getting severe droughts and much more acidic rain. There are possibilities of new diseases appearing from the thawing permafrost, as well as newly mutated ones.

    Everything will be made worse by the current trends in politics, but I suspect those politics are trending because some people are aware where are we heading.

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    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Much of those things will to some extent surely happen but despite it still being really bad, it’s still not going to make us go extinct. That atleast is my current understanding of it. The worst case scenario rarely actually happens and given enough motivation we humans are pretty good at problem solving aswell. I have a strong feeling, that if we’re going to end ourselves, it’s going to more or less be an accident and will happen rather quickly.

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Complete wipe? Certainly not. Reverting our society in standards of living and numbers? Heavily and quickly. People as a species may survive, but will pale in comparison to what we as a society are and can do now. Unless we get cheap fusion power distributed all over the world in the next 20 years, we are gone.

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