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merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• vonbaronhans@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  While this is true, I’ll add that a huge swathe of the same people are huge hypocrites. All it takes is one of their own children to be inconveniently pregnant, and then it’s all “rules for thee but not for me”.

  I don’t think it’s possible to know the proportion of evangelicals who are hypocrites in this way with confidence, but if you look for examples you’ll find plenty. The most recent one I saw was a BYU student who was paid 500 bucks to prank called his mother and say he got a prostitute pregnant (for the filmer’s tiktok or whatever), and after a couple exasperated questions, the mother told him to make the fictional prostitute get an abortion.

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• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not saying that every Republican is like that. Many of the leaders are happy to manipulate the others. But, many evangelicals and catholics have been going to church every Sunday for their entire lives. They’ve been indoctrinated in the belief that abortion truly is murder.

  then they’re all heretics for going against their own scriptures. the bible canonically condones (and even contains instructions for) abortion. Further, scripture-based doctrine says life begins at the first breath, therefore abortion cannot be murder. no where in the scripture is abortion actually banned.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    then they’re all heretics for going against their own scriptures

    Religion is a living thing. Nobody ever follows the religious books exactly, and there is always tons of room for interpretation. They’ll always tell everyone that their interpretation is the only true one, but a neighbouring community will have a slightly different interpretation and swear that theirs is the only true interpretation.

    The key thing is what they believe. In many cases, they believe that abortion is murder (or at least very close to murder). They also manage to justify the things they’re doing at the southern border. Most likely the only person who can convince them that their interpretation is wrong is someone who shares their religious beliefs, or at least knows them intimately.

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    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Religion is a living thing. Nobody ever follows the religious books exactly, and there is always tons of room for interpretation.

      Oh. So you’re saying… we should tolerate their intolerance. Oh. I’m sorry, that was inflammatory. We should hold their beliefs, as a secular nation above everyone else’s- that we should pass laws respecting their religious bullshit. That’s what your saying?

      They can’t have it both ways. They want to. But they can’t. Any denomination which purports to hold a document as the immutable word of god doesn’t then get to disregard said word of god when it says that they’re wrong. And doing so absolutely makes them heretics.

      Furthermore, given that belief, why is it they’re so apposed to contraceptives when easy access to contraceptives is the single most effective method of preventing unwanted pregnancies?

      Theyre hypocrisy knows no bounds, and they’re not motivated by genuine care for the child, or for “righteousness”. If they were… they would not vote for a man like trump, they would support migrants and refugees. They would support contraceptives and give more than 2 shits about the kids they’re forcing to be born into this world

      I’m sick and tired of people saying we should tolerate their intolerance. No. We should not. We should not be crafting policy and law based on their whims of moral panic.

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