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FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Not according to the left. Remember when Trump caught Covid and the left wished him death? Or when his brother died and the left cheered?

What relation does your mental conception of what some nebulous "the left" did-or-did-not do have to the discussion we are having here in c/conservative about whether the use of dehumanizing terms to refer to human beings is laudable?

Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?

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wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Further, is wishing that someone you perceive as having an immense power and direct negative impact on you and your community would lose that power—even via dying—really comparable to dehumanizing an entire class of people?

Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.

Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.

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- FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Yes. Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way, especially when compared to illegals.
  
  Since you don't know the immigration policies where I am I can't comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.
  
  Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
  
  Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
  I don't believe I even personally wished his death when I pointed out hypothetical third parties you brought up potentially doing so was not comparable to striping a class of people of personhood through the language used to refer to them.
  
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  - wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Since you don’t know the immigration policies where I am I can’t comprehend how you are able to claim that assertion.
    
    I can. If you’re not a US citizen then Trump policies on immigration didn’t impact you in a negative way.
    
    Again, kindly point to where I have used dehumanizing language to refer to trump here.
    
    I never said you. Keep up. I said the left. I remember watching the horrible comments they make as people die.
    
    So generally speaking the left doesn’t agree with you and illegal is shorthand for illegal immigrant or criminal in most cases.
    
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    FfaerieOxide@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    I can. If you’re not a US citizen then Trump policies on immigration didn’t impact you in a negative way.
    
    You don't think things US presidents do can effect other nations? Further you didn't state "immigration policies" when you said
    
    Trump didn’t impact your life in a negative way
    
    I would argue trump has done me more personal harm by ruining my enjoyment of Home Alone 2 than any undocumented immigrant has done me by being undocumented.
    
    I never said you. Keep up. I said the left.
    
    Ah, but you VERY MUCH did say "you". 👇
    
    Either everyone has value or they don’t. Don’t claim higher ground and then say everyone but Trump as it makes you look like a chump.
    
    Emphasis mine.
    
    That doesn't even address what "the left" ostensibly doing something has to do with what standards someone who seemingly does not hold themself to be a member of that group should hold themself.
    
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