Comment on Please stop blocking VPNs for established accounts

• Zak@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We are NOT a dark web service where everyone needs to be under tor, vpn, proxy, and back again.

  ISPs in some parts of the world spy on users to, for example sell their browsing habits to advertisers and data brokers. That’s a good motivation for some people to browse via VPN by default, not to enable it only when accessing specific sites.

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  • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Most people dont understand that vpn providers can and will do that too ( even paid ones ) track you, log you and sell that. So yeah both sides track you.

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    • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s definitely a concern. I selected my provider (Mullvad) because I know someone who worked there, and I have fairly high confidence they don’t do that.

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      • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Instance admins chose to block vpns simply because of mullvad and then increased liability, because if there is comming a malicious actor through mulvad and they dont have any logs all liability goes to the instance admin, and then gets questions “Why didnt you just blocked vpns?” etc. etc.

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• Alice@hilariouschaos.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Nah dude, I’m not not advocating to be havin to deal with they csam bullshit.

  It’s the main thing we have zero tolerance for on our instance HC.

  It’s the primary reason we were not federating in the first place.

  So no I don’t expect anyone to put themselves legally at risk for a hobby that doesn’t pay your bills just so I can post my poop and fart questions on shitty ask hilariouschaos lol

  But I’m gunna level with you though.

  I don’t trust the intentions of most instance admins.

  There’s this veil of secrecy and sneakiness there that I just don’t appreciate.

  It’s not a way that myself and our other server admin operated.

  We’re always straight up and 100% transparent as fuck no matter what till the end. We have no issue telling our users what’s going on and how stuff works if they have questions or if there’s any changes. I’m not saying that to talk shit on you.

  And I get that you have to protect yourself that is true yes of course.

  I’m just trying to explain why I asked you that question in the first place.

  I’m not going to tell you how to run your shit, cuz I wouldn’t like it if you told me that LOL haha but there’s a huge benefit to being unapologetically brutally honest and straightforward and up front.

  I don’t know I just feel like there’s some hidden agenda something just doesn’t sit well with me with some other instance admins.

  It’s just really fucking weird anyway I hope y’all figure out your stuff.

  Thanks for responding

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  • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its the curso of a big instance, we announce stuff gets shit on, doesnt announce it gets shit on, makes a vote gets shit on, makes a friendly survey gets shit on.

    We are still trying to announce most of the stuff we do but, some things would have been announcement back and forth because we activated and deactivated one of our harder rules.

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    • Alice@hilariouschaos.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yea, sounds like a rock and hard place for sure. Don’t let it bother you anymore so much. There’s only so much you can do, and you can’t please everyone.

      I feel like lemmy can kinda become a bit of a whole you get sucked into at times.

      Happens to me sometimes. Take a break and step away for a little breather when that happens.

      I know it’s hard to do trust me. I’m addicted to technology so I’ll be the first to tell you ha ha

      But yea don’t stress yourself out. It’ll be alright

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• CorrodedCranium@leminal.space ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Aren’t there alternatives that could be as effective especially when stacked together? dbzer0 requires users to fill out an application with the following

  • Please include the following words “I agree to follow the golden rules” in your application.

  • Tell us the name of your favorite anarchist, pirate, or open source advocate.

  • Mention one public event or news story that happened in the last month.

  and have a verified email address before it’s processed.

  I think the instance owner has also been developing something to prevent CSAM attacks.

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  • Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We get a little bit more registrations in an hour than db0 has in a day, thats the reason why we dont do manual registrations.

    Yes he does, and we are using it already, but its just his one is for after incident cleanup ( ALREADY BAD ) and the vpn is to stop/reduce that even happen.

    But thanks for your suggestions, we sadly cant apply them fully.

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