Comment on unsure why we are surprised lol

• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ve always liked the idea of Council Communism, but I must admit I don’t know as much about it as I would like.

  As such, it is referred to as anti-authoritarianand anti-Leninist Marxism.

  I just think it’s silly to divide ourselves into camps, while we are essentially seeking the same goals.

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  • RustyShackleford@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    while we are essentially seeking the same goals.

    Authoritarian “leftists” are not seeking the same goals as other leftists.

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    • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Neither are social democrats, but we take help where we can get it. If we exclude anyone anti-fascist, that division will be exploited. We can’t afford to lose sight of the true enemy, the billionaire ruling class.

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  • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Council communism is basically methadone therapy for Marxists, for those that can’t make the leap to Anarchism. Council Communism is essentially indistinguishable (in practice, theory is a bit different) from Syndicalism.

    As to campism: Somehow it’s always the authoritarians calling for “left unity”, that of course meaning “follow Stalin”. No, we don’t seek the same goals, and, no, we didn’t forget the Bolsheviks allying with fascists to stab Anarchists in the back.

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    • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “The anarchists point of view is the most disruptive element in the New Left and should be capitalized on in the most confusing ways,” the FBI wrote. [Source](“The anarchists point of view is the most disruptive element in the New Left and should be capitalized on in the most confusing ways,” the FBI wrote.)

      Why were the FBI okay with Anarchists, but not Marxists Leninist like the Black Panthers?

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      • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can’t speak for the FBI but bullshit needs disruption, anyways, and confusion is the first step to enlightenment. Of course the FBI should’ve started by disrupting themselves but you can’t have everything in life.

        Actually even the premise and also language used in that sentence makes me think we might be looking at a Discordian having infiltrated the FBI. What better place to author a zine than on Uncle Sam’s dime?

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