Comment on Oregon governor signs bill recriminalizing hard drugs, completing liberal experiment's U-turn

• wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The ticket isn’t a get of jail free pass.you can still be arrested for other crimes. The law didn’t change that.

  And I call BS they didn’t receive any additional training. It was in the POST training required for officers. You’re claiming a department ignored the training standard and falsified records? Yeah I’ll need the city name to buy that shit.

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  • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nope I didn’t make that claim.

    But Oregon’s Department of Public Safety Standards and Training, which trains law enforcement, confirmed in February that it has offered police no instruction on how Measure 110 works other than to update information for new recruits on when drug possession is a violation, misdemeanor or felony. propublica.org/…/oregon-leaders-hampered-drug-dec…

    Published in February 2024

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not sure who is making that claim. I sat in on the training and one of my friends produced training for 110. I haven’t met an officer who wasn’t trained on 110.

      I can’t find an official verified statement that no training was provided. It’s seem that’s propaganda against the police police since this article claims there was no training then list the training they were given

      wweek.com/…/researchers-release-second-round-on-f…

      Departments simply received a simple question-and-answer guide from the state and officers were unclear about how best to handle situations involving drug possession and leading to additional frustration

      That is training. When a law changes, that typically what you receive for training and it’s what I saw when I sat in on the training.

      So while people are trying to blame the police, they were trained.

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      • Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When you leave off the beginning of the quote it seems misleading:

        “BM 110 implementation also lacked any training and education for law enforcement officers,” the report says. “Departments simply received a simple question-and-answer guide from the state and officers were unclear about how best to handle situations involving drug possession and leading to additional frustration.”

        So everyone received training but somehow between you and me we found two sources that say there wasn’t training.

        I think you’re just re-defining the word “training” to something other than what an average person would consider “training” to mean, and claiming you’re right. Just like the Reagan administration redefining ketchup as a vegetable in order to cut costs on children’s nutrition funding. Oh sneaky republicans.

        Be real: if officers were unclear on how to handle situations- then they clearly didn’t receive as much instruction as they needed. Not receiving enough instruction = untrained. A Q&A pamphlet does not constitute training. It doesn’t matter if that’s what typically happens or if this is officially referred to as training, this is not what is normally meant by the word, or what a reasonable person would expect of “training”- especially when the health and safety of officers and the general public are at stake.

        And I don’t think anyone is blaming police. It seems they were as frustrated as anyone with the lack of clarity, resolve and commitment from state and local government to address drug addiction’s terrible burden on communities, families, and individuals. Like they did in Portugal.

        Anyway, you can have the last word, I’m done here.

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