Comment on FF Evangelists

• ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  chromium is open source too.

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  • joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But Chrome, the actual application you download (as well as several forks), is closed source.

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    • ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Agreed. I just wanted to point out that you can have open source with a chromium based browser

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But that’s not the real issue. The issue is that any Chromium-based browser – open source or not – helps Google maintain hegemony over web standards. Even if makers of other Chromium-based browsers try to maintain a fork of the rendering engine, they’ll be perpetually playing catch-up removing user-hostile misfeatures because Google controls the upstream branch.

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  • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Google still has control over Chromium. Manifest v3 is a Chromium thing, not a Chrome thing. All forks of Chromium will get it and none of the browsers using Chromium as a base has moved to fork and maintain their own version of Chromium.

    This means that Google effectively has a monopoly over all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko based, which is a tiny portion of all browsers. Leading to Google deciding how people access the internet. It’s already worrying that Google is the internet for a lot of people, the fact that they can do more or less anything with Chromium means that they can do whatever they want with the web standard.

    That should be a major concern for everyone. Chromium needs to be taken away from Google.

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    • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko

      I don’t get this part. Are all engines other than those 2, based on Chromium?

      Perhaps you are forgetting Ze great Konqueror ?

      Because it has always been KHTML.

      There’s a meme for that. Check it out

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      • xe3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think Konquerer is no longer actively maintained.

        Fun fact (which you may already know) the two most popular browser engines today are based on KHTML)

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