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You won’t know any of those are ad-free or spy-free

Because Google is so expensive?

which is not true anyways, fediverse instances are absolutely being scraped

Scraping public data is entirely different from collecting your contact history, location history, web browsing traffic, decrypting WhatsApp traffic, etc. etc. and on and on.

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t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

collecting your contact history, location history, web browsing traffic

Fediverse instances can also do this. They know your IP and email, and the stuff you reveal about yourself. You could de-anonymize many users with those plus the info they share about themselves on here, with a bit of OSINT work.

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- helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Fediverse instances can also do most of this.
  
  Do you have reason to believe any of that is happening?
  
  You could de-anonymize many users with those
  
  Bruh your Facebook username is literally my first and last name. Same goes for most people on most platforms. I don’t particularly care about anonymity.
  
  Any fediverse apps could also get access to contacts or other locally-stored info on your phone.
  
  I’ve never used a Fediverse app that asked for any of that. They have no use for it.
  
  “But I wouldn’t use that app.” Well then you wouldn’t be someone using Facebook either.
  
  You don’t seem to understand the myriad of data that Facebook collects unnecessarily and without user consent. Do a search for Facebook Pixels. They were just caught decrypting traffic from SnapChat. Most Fediverse servers are far too small to even bother with collecting and selling that sort of data.
  
  The two are not even remotely comparable.
  
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  - t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m not arguing they’re comparable; I’m the one out of the 2 of us arguing not to have any interaction with Meta apps, including via federation. I’m arguing that you shouldn’t be trying to sell a false sense of anonymity with fediverse instances. You said they’re “spy-free”, not “far less intrusive than Facebook”. The latter is true. The former is not.
    
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    helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    I’m arguing that you shouldn’t be trying to sell a false sense of anonymity with fediverse instances.
    
    I never did that.
    
    You said they’re “spy-free”, not “far less intrusive than Facebook”.
    
    And I stand by that. Collecting necessary information for operation is not the same thing as spying.
    
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