Comment on A Parallel World?
goldenballs@wolfballs.com 2 years agoOne of the problems with this is that there's no such thing as "white" or "black", there's no such thing as "race". These are American ideas, as well as archaic poorly-defined ones. You have to start from sound scientific first principles otherwise you end up in knots.
Ethnicity is what exists, comprised of genotype and culturetype; and genotype is comprised of phenotypes, which in turn are comprised of allelles, and sorted into configurations of y-chromosome and mtDNA haplogroups. In other words, you can specifically define a range of values for, say French or Finnish, but you cannot get anywhere near that for, say, Australian Aborigines and Cambodians, it just doesn't work. You can define the differences you see in ethnotype terms, though.
Having Balkanised virtual communities is not going to appeal to the widest audience, what you need is a political cause for buy-in, and it makes life easier to stick to culture-type to align communities together. Ideas like "the Irish pub", "the Greek taverna" etc... They are ethnically distinct, and essentially "white", but its the fact that the culture of getting together to drink and talk that is the alignment, and which unigned culturetypes like in the middle east or far east self-exclude from. Its these ethnic realities that left-wingers fail to understand that leads them down the wrong path to idiotic cryptofascist identity politics, because they cannot reconcile their own difficulty with black people, who are not black at all, but Afro-American, Caribbean, West African, Ethiopian, Kongolese, Swahili, Khoisian, Zulu, etc... I've worked with Nigerians, Jamaicans, Angolans, Saffers, they have very little in common with each other in terms of culture and conduct, just as Russians, Norwegians, Italians, Euro-Americans. "White" doesn't really work, except in the "New World". In the "old world", we are not "white", we are the aborigines.
Spotted_Lady@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
To me, race does exist, and it is scientifically proven that there are 3. Those who disagree tend to be on the Left and those I'd rather not converse with.
And really, TBH, what we call races in humans are close to what we call breeds in dogs.
Some of the logic you use could be used to say that dogs and cats are the same, that culture makes them different. Now some are saying that about gender, that it is a social construct. So if that were the case, why would someone choose to be trans? Just believe hard enough and you'd have different parts, different brains, etc.
And no, when I see "black people," I am not imagining that. I don't imagine the brain structure that makes it harder for them to mind their own business, think ahead, avoid the filthy need to socialize all the time, avoid unnecessary sex, or have to dominate, control, or adopt the filthy values of "street smarts." I used to be as naive as you, even colorblind, but that is not how the world works. The brains and inner capacity are the problem. And I get tired of folks saying, "Whites do it too." That has never been the difference, but the inherent genetic inferiority that causes some people to do it more.
I give race as an example only.
goldenballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
No its not. Its "scientifically proven" that there are not three "races". It's utter bollocks. I amas right wing ad they come, but i am a real scientist and a real engineer, with plebty of familiarity with logic, in every sense.
Those that disagree are not on the left. I would say that those who think there are "three races" are far more left wing and effeminate than me
You have to deal with reality, which is expressed in genetic data as y-chromosome and mtDNA haplogroups. Talking about "race" is 18th century bollocks, like phrenology.
Gender is just another word for sex: holes and poles. It's all chromosomes. All "trans" rhetoric is bollocks. Hermaphrodites are rare genetic anomalies.
There are no "social constructs"; or "social vobstructs" are "social constructs". Eurasian ethnic groups have some Neanderthal DNA, and Africans don't. Australasians and Negritos don't much either, just a bit of Denisovan. It's not complicated really. "White-skinned peope", are a spectrum from the Indus to the Levant to the Alps and Carpathians, to the coastal fringes of Europe. Are Turks and Armenians ""white"? Well most Turks have Hittite and Greek or Celtic, Caucasian or Armenian DNA. Many Jews are Slavic Khazars with no Semitic DNA. Arabs? Persians? I guess they are outside the range.
Spotted_Lady@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
With all due respect, I believe you misunderstood everything I said. And yes, it is scientifically proven that there are 3 groupings that we call races. Period. That is my final answer and what I will believe forever.
Blacks, Asians, and Caucasians are different in kind, just like male and female are different in kind (well, different parts of the same kind). I identify as Caucasian and put my own white race first like everyone should do with their own race. There can be no racism if every group puts their own people first which I see as a moral responsibility, and learns to prefer their own kind, keep their own customs to their own people, and not interfere with the rights or business of other people.
My part in this subpart of the thread is over. Thank you.
goldenballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
"that is my final answer and what I will believe forever" is not a scientific statement, it's an emotional, religious one, which is the kind of thing that leftist-statists say.
Caucaisians are people from the Caucasus, and technically, Arabs, northern Indians, Persian peoples like Tajiks and Kurds, as well as Anatolians are "caucasoid" if you want to use that archaic unscientific term... But i doubt you would consider them "white"... "White"/"caucasian" are american concepts and terms that are political pre-scientific constructs.
"Racial reality" is defined in genes, in configurations of haplogroups... When you look at them you see a scientific expression of what your lying eyes tell you... That (e.g.:) Abdul and Solomon, are not "white" because they have haplogroup J, and no haplogroup I or R in their gene matrix.
The word "race" is meaningless, as is the word "white". Many north americans have all the haplogroups of various categories of European, and it makes more sense to identify as a "Euro-American". That's what you are. That's your blood, your soil, and much of your culture.