My point is that being annoying isn't the same as being annoying and actively harmful.
If your main complaint about vegans is that they're patronizing, that still doesn't put them in the same category as say, the catholic church or the evangelical movement which have protected rapists, encouraged violence and spread hate.
No but doing it because you think it actually helps anything means that you’re at best far more naive than all those organizations.
They send the young folks out on mission trips because they know damn well it will lead to them being treated with little patience and eventually lead to them being jaded into turning inwards towards the in group.
American vegans are either doing it because they’re morons or because they are equally aware and just as complicit trying to foster an in group out group dynamic, something that becomes much clearer when they insist on calling even vegetarians carnists for not being vegans too.
Not to mention the cult of “no trust us bro we can totally do ethical consumption under capitalism! Meatless Mondays definitely aren’t basically just the recycling effect for millennials and Zoomers!”
American vegans are either doing it because they’re morons or because they are equally aware and just as complicit
Or they don't want to hurt animals unnecessarily or don't want to be complicit in the environmental devastation that industrial scale meat production causes.
they insist on calling even vegetarians carnists for not being vegans too.
I'm a vegetarian and I've never heard vegans say that. The craziest online voices are not an accurate representation of a group.
ethical consumption under capitalism! Meatless Mondays
Wait vegans hate vegetarians AND love people who eat meat 6 days a week? You're accusing them of being fanatically doctrinal and too accepting. When you accuse a group of mutually exclusive traits, that's a sign that you're working from a stereotype and not reality.
I’ve been vegetarian for 20+ years and have recieved nothing but love and support from vegans. Even one person I knew that was so committed she changed her last name to Govegan.
I did recieved some chastisement from a plant based person for not knowing the difference between plant based and vegan, but they were also very anti-vegan.
Hegar@kbin.social 9 months ago
My point is that being annoying isn't the same as being annoying and actively harmful.
If your main complaint about vegans is that they're patronizing, that still doesn't put them in the same category as say, the catholic church or the evangelical movement which have protected rapists, encouraged violence and spread hate.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 9 months ago
No but doing it because you think it actually helps anything means that you’re at best far more naive than all those organizations.
They send the young folks out on mission trips because they know damn well it will lead to them being treated with little patience and eventually lead to them being jaded into turning inwards towards the in group.
American vegans are either doing it because they’re morons or because they are equally aware and just as complicit trying to foster an in group out group dynamic, something that becomes much clearer when they insist on calling even vegetarians carnists for not being vegans too.
Not to mention the cult of “no trust us bro we can totally do ethical consumption under capitalism! Meatless Mondays definitely aren’t basically just the recycling effect for millennials and Zoomers!”
Hegar@kbin.social 9 months ago
Or they don't want to hurt animals unnecessarily or don't want to be complicit in the environmental devastation that industrial scale meat production causes.
I'm a vegetarian and I've never heard vegans say that. The craziest online voices are not an accurate representation of a group.
Wait vegans hate vegetarians AND love people who eat meat 6 days a week? You're accusing them of being fanatically doctrinal and too accepting. When you accuse a group of mutually exclusive traits, that's a sign that you're working from a stereotype and not reality.
ReiRose@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve been vegetarian for 20+ years and have recieved nothing but love and support from vegans. Even one person I knew that was so committed she changed her last name to Govegan. I did recieved some chastisement from a plant based person for not knowing the difference between plant based and vegan, but they were also very anti-vegan.