Hegar@kbin.social 6 months ago
Christianity in the US actively contributes to almost every major problem facing our country whereas veganism improves the environment, reduces the suffering of some life and annoys some people. Sure, like any group of people vegans can be liable to groupthink and sometimes wrong about things. But you're ignoring a whole bunch of reality if you think both vegans and evangelicals are equally harmful.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Doing the same patronizing bullshit doesn’t become ok because you think you have better reasons.
Hegar@kbin.social 6 months ago
My point is that being annoying isn't the same as being annoying and actively harmful.
If your main complaint about vegans is that they're patronizing, that still doesn't put them in the same category as say, the catholic church or the evangelical movement which have protected rapists, encouraged violence and spread hate.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No but doing it because you think it actually helps anything means that you’re at best far more naive than all those organizations.
They send the young folks out on mission trips because they know damn well it will lead to them being treated with little patience and eventually lead to them being jaded into turning inwards towards the in group.
American vegans are either doing it because they’re morons or because they are equally aware and just as complicit trying to foster an in group out group dynamic, something that becomes much clearer when they insist on calling even vegetarians carnists for not being vegans too.
Not to mention the cult of “no trust us bro we can totally do ethical consumption under capitalism! Meatless Mondays definitely aren’t basically just the recycling effect for millennials and Zoomers!”
Hegar@kbin.social 6 months ago
Or they don't want to hurt animals unnecessarily or don't want to be complicit in the environmental devastation that industrial scale meat production causes.
I'm a vegetarian and I've never heard vegans say that. The craziest online voices are not an accurate representation of a group.
Wait vegans hate vegetarians AND love people who eat meat 6 days a week? You're accusing them of being fanatically doctrinal and too accepting. When you accuse a group of mutually exclusive traits, that's a sign that you're working from a stereotype and not reality.