Comment on Americans split on who they trust to do a better job as president: POLL
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 3 months agoHmm it’s an interesting use of the words “social conservatism” to describe people who would vote for someone with 91 criminal charges.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Most those charges are banana republic crap. They are attacks on his politics. That’s how scared the democrats are of Trump.
Social conservatives are more focused two adult males having sex than the trumped up charges.
I don’t care if two men have sex as long as I don’t have to see it. I believe the government should stay out of things that are not harmful.
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Well it just goes to show the hypocrisy of evangelical and socially conservative voters. Jesus never said anything about gay people but there is a direct quote from Jesus in the book of Matthew about divorce. Trump is on his third wife and was unfaithful at least once if news reports are to be believed.
What a choice: The old and confused current president hands out bombs with one hand and humanitarian aid with the other. The other option is a rapist and criminal up to his eyeballs in debt for his misdeeds. These are symptoms of a system that is breaking down.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Trump has never been convicted of rape. Liberals keep repeating that but it’s a a libelous comment to make. Trump has never been charged with rape
Fal@yiffit.net 3 months ago
Simping over trump. I wonder how you people will look back in this in 10 or 15 years.
PizzaMane@lemm.ee 3 months ago
“Trump is a convicted rapist” and “Trump is a rapist” are not the same.
He wasn’t convicted due to the statute of limitations (~12 years for rape). We don’t need to have a conviction to know he is a rapist.
So quit the bullshit.
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
My mistake. I suppose of you asked most Americans if they would vote for a rapist, they’d give you a resounding No.
But what if you ask them, would you vote for a sexually abusive forced digital penetrator? One with a reputation for walking into beauty pageant dressing rooms and dozens of accusations of sexual impropriety going back for years? It seems many Americans would say Yes, uwu!
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 3 months ago
In the state of NY which is where it occurred, he was found to have committed an act that is also described by the term “rape”. The only reason his conviction wasn’t for proper rape is because in NY there is a very narrow definition.
To put it a different way, in many other states committing the same act, would be considered rape.
State borders do not change the ethics of what he did. He’s a rapist, just not according to the State of New York’s definition.
Forester@yiffit.net 3 months ago
Trump was most recently indicted on 13 criminal counts by a Fulton County grand jury in Georgia state court related to his alleged attempts to overturn the results of Georgia’s 2020 presidential election.
Separately, Trump was indicted by a federal grand jury on 4 counts in a criminal proceeding in Washington, D.C., also related to his alleged attempts to overturn the will of the voters and interfere with the 2020 presidential election results.
Trump has also been indicted by a different federal grand jury in Florida on 40 counts in relation to both obstructing an investigation into, and his unlawful retention of classified documents after his presidential term.
Finally, Trump has been indicted on 34 counts in a criminal proceeding in New York State Court related to hush money payments made to an adult film star during the 2016 presidential campaign.
All of the grand juries that decided to indict Trump were are made up of local citizens randomly chosen from the jury pool.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Grand juries don’t decide guilt. They decide if there is enough cause to send to a trial. Finding enough people to send it to trial isn’t that hard.
Look at Georgia and how much silliness is going on there. Only one prosecutor said they would take the case. If she is disqualified, the case will be dropped. The fact that everyone denied the case is pretty telling of the quality of the charges.
Trump held onto documents, and the courts must decide on this one since it is a complex issue. Interestingly, Biden did the same thing, yet he was declared too feeble-minded to be prosecuted. It’s not a great look when he wants to be president.
The 34 counts are bogus.
cbsnews.com/…/trump-felony-charges-legal-experts-…
One of the arguments is he paid off Stormy, as his sleeping with a porn star might hurt his chances of being the president. It is so silly it’s absurd. The people voting for Trump in 2016 likely saw that as a positive. The whole argument falls apart when you understand the people who voted for Trump in 2016.
So far I have seen nothing other than Banana Republic level stuff. It is a shame the Democrats are so afraid of Trump winning that they go full banana republic. If you have noticed, it has only increased Trump’s appeal.
I had debated strongly about voting for him in the next election, but all these Trumped-up changes have made me decide to vote for Trump.
Forester@yiffit.net 3 months ago
I’m not here to argue with you. I don’t care about your feelings just the facts. You can look into the charges further at your own leisure. I’m not here to debate them with you. And I’m definitely not here for what aboutisms. If somebody breaks the law and gets caught then a trial is commenced based on evidence. If you can’t get enough evidence to convince a grand jury to indite then there is clearly not a case.