Comment on Exception implies deficiency. Am I the only one who sees this?
snooggums@midwest.social 9 months ago
An exception because of discrimination does not imply the class is deficient. It is because they are at a disadvantage due to circumstances, which in most cases is racism, sexism, or bigotry.
Women were excluded from a lot of sports due to sexism, not physical differences. As in not even being allowed to participate. Women’s sports categories were initially a response to that exclusion, not to address physical differences.
Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I am aware of the popular narrative.
AND there is this other, implied, narrative.
Both exist.
Both have weight.
snooggums@midwest.social 9 months ago
There is no implied narrative of deficiency.
You are inferring a narrative of deficiency based on an assumption.
You are wrong.
Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 9 months ago
When you are handed a crutch it is implied that you cannot walk.
snooggums@midwest.social 9 months ago
The person handing the crutch may have inferred you need a crutch even though you don’t actually need one.
Does handing a sandwich to someone imply a nutritional deficiency?
Does offering to buy someone lunch imply they have an income deficiency?
frosty99c@midwest.social 9 months ago
Ok, now take it one more step. Why can’t that person walk? Is it because someone broke their leg? In that case, it’s not an ‘exception’ it’s an aid. It makes the situation more equitable.
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Nibodhika@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So are you saying we shouldn’t give crutches to people that can in fact walk but shouldn’t because they need to heal their leg properly?
A crutch is an aid, it is given to people that need aid to be able to walk properly. This might be because of some inate deficiency, or because of some injury, you wouldn’t say a person who twisted her ankle and will make a full recovery in 1 month is deficient, they are currently in a state of deficiency, but it’s not inate to them. That’s the jump in logic you’re making without realising, just because someone needs aid doesn’t mean they’re inherently inferior, but they might be in a situation that makes them less able than what they should be.
Nemo@midwest.social 9 months ago
But only one is currently useful for correcting injustice, while the other is used to perpetute it. So kindly desist.
Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I think that, by not addressing the implied narrative, you leave it unspoken therefore unargued. Thus giving it power.
Ignorance is no path to success, surely.
Nemo@midwest.social 9 months ago
I’m addressing it right now, telling you in no uncertain terms that it’s an argument employed by racists to perpetuate racism, and sexists to perpetuate sexism. It’s already been discussed at length and we know where it leads.
neptune@dmv.social 9 months ago
This is maybe the most illogical conclusion I have seen written anywhere.
“you say A, I say C, clearly the answer is sort of C but also B”
No, it’s not logical that the correct answer is somewhere between two popular answers. 1+1 does not equal 2.3, just because some people say it’s actually 3