Comment on I have lost faith in almost *EVERY* vaccine
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years agoexcept for massive outbreaks in the sort of areas that woo woo Crystal ladies live.
Reliable sources needed.
When ever anyone looks at these sort of claims with any scrutiny they usually end up over blown or just plain wrong. You don't see the Amish over run with measles.
The fact that I had chicken pox around 93 (and remember it) and kids at the same age around 2001 did not seems to be some proof those type of vaccines work. At-least in my mind. but I seriously question any source that told you Crystal ladies in California were getting measles outbreaks.
These sort of data points are really hard to interpret. For example, you might say that wealthy women have a much higher mental illness rate but that might be because they have a much higher chance of getting a diagnosis because they actually see doctors.
sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 2 years ago
Not sure you can really call these reliable any more, but California, Washington state, and New York
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6817e1.htm
And later on in the same year:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6840e2.htm
The areas that got hit hardest aren't far right areas for sure.
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
CDC is mostly trash these days. They are looking for provaccine content.
That is all they said. So they start with a goal. Prove the vaccines work. Then they go hunt data to support their claim. They look in places like California where un vaccinated people might be more likely to get measles due to being more social, having more young people together. Point to the lower 11% vaccinated infected rate as the reason for the outbreak. What I see is 11% is still substantial and just makes me suspicious of the whole data sample.
They are going to intentionally ignore the Amish and other communities that do fine without the vaccine because it won't support their data.
I'm not saying that the vaccines for sure don't work. I'm saying the CDC's goal it to show that it does and so they won't look at the data in a wholesome way.