You are wrong, you can cheese in DoS2 but you don´t have to. It is an option, not a requirement. Source: I (as probably many others did too) finished the game without using any cheese.
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claycle@lemm.ee 11 months ago
A friend and I tried this game and enjoyed it up to a point, a particular fight we could not get past.
Finally looking online for a guide, we discovered that every guide we could find suggested cheesing the fight in various ways.
We both decided that any game that required the player to both know a fight was about to happen (when it was impossible from context to predict) and cheese the fight to win was a bad game. Even if this was only one fight, it was a fight that blocked all progress. We quit and neither of us have wanted to play the game again.
Note: We have, either together or on our own, completed other games - like BG 1-2, NWN, PoE, DOS1 - without resorting to guides, cheats, foreknowledge, or cheese.
We were, and remain, very disappointed with DOS2 because of this, and we’re “suspicious” of BG3 (charitably, perhaps Larian made a mistake in DOS2 and won’t repeat it in BG3).
Nacktmull@lemm.ee 11 months ago
claycle@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I suspect you reflexively cheesed the game, mainly because I absolutely recall that when we gave-in and looked up guides for this fight, every single one of them that we found at the time advised us to cheese the fight. Not one simply presented a strategy or alternative. They were all like, “Oh, yeah, that fight. You gotta cheese it.” We both found the idea of having to cheese a fight to win distasteful, so we just quit with a shrug.
That was our experience. It was a bad game for us because of that, and I thought I had made that clear.
Nacktmull@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I respect your individual experience but please believe me that cheesing is not necessary to beat DoS2.
let_it_gogh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Which fight was this?
I knew getting into the game that the combat was punishing - especially in Act 1 before you built your team. But I don’t recall having to cheese a fight to get pass it.
claycle@lemm.ee 11 months ago
See EDIT.
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I found that lowering the difficulty was just required. The early game, you have a LOT stacked against you. When you level up, get more abilities, better gear - then you don’t have to pull them behind a doorway or something.
It made sense that you were completely outgunned in the start, but as you progress, it’s a little easier.
However, the emphasis on surfaces was bad. It was way too easy to make necrotic fire that was 2 turns to dispel a small portion of. And in the beginning, it’s very hard to get rid of it. Late game, you can turn it into a healing fire.
But other than those gripes, it was a fantastic game. Well with the time invested to learn it. Just, lower the difficulty.
dfc09@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Without knowing what fight you stopped at it’s hard to really talk about your experience, but I promise you don’t need to know a fight is coming or cheese the fight. There’s a point where the fights just click for you and become easier. There’s also plenty of content you can go to instead to level up, if you’re under leveled.
There’s only 1 fight I can think of that’s balls to three weeks nuts (the Blackpits) and my brother and I still beat it legitimately, just took like 6 attempts.
claycle@lemm.ee 11 months ago
See EDIT.
dfc09@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Fair. All things considered though, my friend who couldn’t get through DOSII has been begging me to get the BG3 early access with him. So without playing it, it seems more approachable!!!