Comment on Teams apparently can't call when using Firefox

• dan@upvote.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  At least Chrome is mostly standards-compliant and doesn’t do anything too weirdly. I’d say Safari is the new IE - lots of weird bugs that no other browser has, and sometimes you need hacks specific to Safari.

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    However, Chrome is a browser collecting user data for a company whose business model it is to sell user data. Edge is a shitty bloatware collecting user data for a company that has (for now) a business model selling software licenses.

    I wouldn’t say it’s “better” to use Edge, but I wouldn’t install Chrome either(!) on any device whose data I care about.

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    • dan@upvote.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      whose business model it is to sell user data

      So I know what you mean, but Google doesn’t sell user data. That’s a common misconception. The data is what makes the company valuable - they’re not going to just give that to anyone with money. Instead, they sell your attention. Advertisers can target their ads based on data collected about you. Advertisers never actually see the data nor do they know exactly which users are seeing their ad - they just get aggregate statistics.

      Having said that… Edge is basically Chrome but better (e.g. it uses less RAM). I use Firefox but if I didn’t, I’d give Edge a try. It’s unfortunate that Microsoft are trying to push it so hard, since it’s actually a decent browser that’s being ruined by Microsoft trying to force everyone to use it.

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      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        While I don’t know of course whether Google actually sells the data itself, let me rephrase my original criticism: “whose business model is based on monetizing user data - which can lead to severe privacy breaches / leaks of sensitive personal data”. Thanks for pointing that out, but I would say my prime concern remains.

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  • Monument@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    That’s fair. I meant that more in terms of using market dominance to shape the browser market, and not in entirely good ways.

    I’ll rue the day that every website insists it only works with Chrome because of some user-privacy degrading feature that Google insists is a core web technology.

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  • drathvedro@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I couldn’t say that it is. Chrome team’s usual approach is to make and release stuff first, write specifications later. By the time the other browsers come along, there’s already both market adoption and bunch of dumb decisions set in stone as a standard. Most notable examples of this would be QUIC and WebUSB

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