Comment on Shrodinger’s Megamind
TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 year agoYou’re talking about countable infinities vs uncountable infinities, but you’re proving my point. Order is a countable infinity, disorder is an uncountable infinity. You’ve just abstracted yourself into a corner.
Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
sigh, very well then.
Consider the set of real numbers, which is an uncountable infinity. Notice how this infinite set does not contain any grapes.
It’s not rocket science
TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Grapes and real numbers are both finite distinctions of a shared infinitely ordered set, which itself is part of an infinitely disordered set. Numbers are an infinitely ordered set that do not contain grapes. Grapes are part of many finite sets that are also part of an infinitely ordered set. Both exist within disordered and ordered sets as well. You’re not describing limitations of the infinite like you think you are. You’re only describing the limitations of your understanding of the infinite.
CaptainEffort@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Exactly this. I think the real problem is that infinite is virtually impossible to comprehend, so people regularly misunderstand what it means and how it works.
TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They’re slippery concepts to be sure. Language itself becomes an impediment when discussing the subject. How can one use terms which were created to narrow perspective in order to expand consciousness to encompass the ineffable?
Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well, yes, obviously different infinite sets have different contents. Do you have a point that’s actually relevant to what we’re talking about?
TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, no more points to make with you. You’ve missed every point I’ve made so far, so to continue would be a waste of time.