You are assuming the people have the time to learn, the energy, even a kitchen with enough space to do it. Now if you’re just talking about like a frozen pizza sure whatever but if you’re talking about making it from scratch that’s a lot of fucking work not everyone has that kind of time
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dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Make pizza at home. Stop falling into poverty traps.
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 5 months ago
JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Who doesn’t ever have time to cook? Making pizza from scratch is maybe 30mins of work at most. To me it Sounds like you are infantilizing poor people into a position where they are too stupid to feed themselves. I have never in my life met a single person who couldn’t just have made pizza at home.
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Pizzas from scratch does not become 30 minutes of work until you’re well versed in it. Before that it’s a giant mess which most people who are poor and living in tiny Apartments literally just do not have the counterspace for. And a few hours of learning.
When you are poor the vast majority of your time is generally spent trying to make what little money you can, you come home you have enough time to quickly eat something shower maybe if you’re lucky to get one hour to yourself before it’s time to sleep.
There are lots of foods that you can do quickly and easily from scratch for yourself. Especially if you can manage to get your hands on something like an instant pot or other type of large slow cooker or pressure cooker. Things that will allow you to make seemingly complex meals with a couple button pushes and you don’t even have to be home to monitor it but pizza from scratch is just not one of them
Cataphract@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
For the past couple of years I’ve been on a “home cooking” stretch making as many different varieties of cuisines possible, dough is by far one of the toughest to perfect even with decades of experience in the restaurant industry . Without decent equipment costing an outrageous amount you’re going to be spending hours and multiple attempts to get a product that resembles the flavor and texture profile you’re aiming for.
I feel like the responses I see to how “easy” home cooking is comes from the Dunning-Kruger effect. No one enjoys setting up a flour station and having to clean that shit up (especially if you’re a dough slapper, which why wouldn’t you be). A beginner cutting up and prepping the ingredients for a deluxe pizza is going to take 30 mins alone (precook sausage, 7+ different items needing to be cut, blending sauce, shredding cheese). The dough is a whole other paragraph that’s just making me tired thinking about it, but decent dough takes time.
Top professionals know the years of hard work and learning that is needed to efficiently run a quick kitchen. There’s so much research needed, trial-and-error, and shitty recipes out there it’s beyond unnecessarily complicated without a solid template (mentor, family recipes) to follow. It becomes a second hobby (which people don’t have time for) if you want to completely replace expenses and keep the same quality from desirable restaurants. Got a shitty oven that doesn’t cook evenly? Can’t afford anything but a wooden spoon and a large plastic mixing bowl? Temperatures in your dwelling that vary rapidly effecting your meal prep? The poorer you are the more you have to micro-manage every detail when you’re already stretched so thin.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
What does this even have to do with poverty? I work a well paying office job. Often in evenings I just don’t have the energy to cook a decent meal, between caring for my family and getting a bit of time to myself. If I lived in a big city, with their tiny little kitchens, it’d be even more frustrating.
- Can I? Sure, it’s a simple recipe, I don’t need to be an experienced cook.
- Can I make time? Sure, I can sacrifice some unwind time or family time.
- Can I find the energy to motivate myself to sacrifice that time? Often not.
I imagine it gets exponentially worse with larger families, smaller apartments, and harder/more jobs.
nixcamic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tbf sometimes you don’t have the energy or time to cook at home. When that happens pizza is one of the cheapest options. But not freakin $36 pizza that looks marginally better than Little Ceasars.
FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Pizza is an exception in my book because I can never make it as good at home as they do in a restaurant kitchen.
franklin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I understand wanting to give people the tools to help themselves but it’s also important to keep in mind that this sort of logic has been used to punish to poor and victim blame for any excess pleasure expenditure.
Poverty is a symptom of a failing system and does not fall solely on the individual to escape.