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Comment on Jerry Nadler Says ‘Vegetables’ Will ‘Rot’ If Illegal Immigrants Aren’t There To Pick Them

PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

He’s not entirely wrong…

From the USDA:

In 2018–20, 30 percent of crop farmworkers were U.S. born, 6 percent were immigrants who had obtained U.S. citizenship, 23 percent were other authorized immigrants (primarily permanent residents or green-card holders), and the remaining 41 percent held no work authorization.

The largest share of crop farmworkers in the U.S. are unauthorized workers according to government data.

What is so contentious about this, exactly?

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wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
WHat is interesting is we have a visa just for people who want to pick crops. Yet, the companies would rather do it illegally.

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- jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve always been of the opnion that revenue from illegal workers is ill gotten gains and should be seized like drug dealers assets. You start freezing companies bank accounts and seize their money they’ll start to think twice.
  
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  - wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Agreed. I’d rather see the companies held accountable than the immigrants. The immigrants are coming because of the demand. Kill the demand and they’ll stop coming illegally
    
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OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Because its undercutting American wages and benefits. Because it creates an underclass of people. Because it hurts the American worker. You know why wages are so low and unions cant do jack shit?

Because we let these companies import cheap labor, who dont speak the language, with zero consequences. And they face zero difficulties because we just let these illegals walk right in.

Have you ever tried to form a union with people who dont speak the same language? Who are grateful just to be here, and have zero legal recourse? Its near impossible.

Diversity is not strength, its robbery.

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- u_die_for_elmer@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You are right. We should grant full citizenship to everyone here, and do it right now. No more hyper exploitation of these workers by the corporate class. No more fear of joining a union because you could be reported to ICE. No more using undocumented labor to pull down the living standards of everyone. Full agree. Didn’t expect to see this on the conservative lemmy. Right on.
  
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  - wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You can solve it with visa or punishing the company.
    
    Citizenship has value and shouldnt be handed out like candy
    
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  - OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They should be deported so as to incentivize them not to come. Or at the very least, a minimally funded prison.
    
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- PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Because its undercutting American wages and benefits. Because it creates an underclass of people. Because it hurts the American worker. You know why wages are so low and unions cant do jack shit?
  
  Right, because so many Americans want to pick corn. We’re just chompin’ at the bit to do literally back-breaking, heart-bursting, knee-destroying work like picking strawberries and zucchini.
  
  C’mon. Who are you trying to kid?
  
  Because we let these companies import cheap labor
  
  …this is the whole history of American free enterprise. Now you want to stop the importation of cheap labor? Maybe we should’ve thought about that before we made it a part of the Constitution and other bedrock institutions. Economically, these farms would be fools to hire more expensive labor when they can get away with paying significantly less under the table.
  
  Diversity is not strength, its robbery.
  
  Where diversity is not strength, sameness compounds.
  
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  - jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Right, because so many Americans want to pick corn.
    
    You know machines pick corn right?
    
    The argument that no one wants to pick strawberries or zucchini and that’s why illegal labor is needed is ignoring one thing. No one wants to pick strawberries or zucchini for the wages offered.
    
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    PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    No one wants to pick strawberries or zucchini for the wages offered.
    
    Yeah, but also, no one wants to pay for American-picked groceries. And conservatives want nothing less than to subsidize farmers to encourage them to hire Americans for the job.
    
    What’s the solution here? Like banning abortions for more babies, are we gonna ban immigration to force American to pick a grape? To beat us to submission?
    
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  - OnlyTakesLs@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Right, because so many Americans want to pick corn.
    
    Not at the wages offered.
    
    If good wages were offered, more Americans would do those jobs.
    
    this is the whole history of American free enterprise.
    
    We want better rights and wages for our workers, for a long time. We’ve been doing it since April 12th, 1861 baybee!
    
    Where diversity is not strength, sameness compounds.
    
    So whats wrong with sameness?
    
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    PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes to everything, except…
    
    So whats wrong with sameness?
    
    What’s wrong with diversity?
    
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  - Throwawayisapedo@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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Throwawayisapedo@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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Throwawayisapedo@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Throwaway is a pedophile and you are protecting him

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Throwawayisapedo@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Throwaway is a pedophile and you are protecting him

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