Comment on No thanks, Honey isn't vegan
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day agoI think blanket ruling that “trying openers” is “annoying people” is invalid. Yeah, it might be annoying most of the time, but so are a lot of interactions. If you follow that road you’d end up with anyone who talks to someone ever deserving to die in a fire which I think is unreasonable.
If the worst thing that happens because you shoot your shot is you annoy someone for 15 seconds, then whatever. Take no for an answer is all I ask.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day ago
If those interactions are unnecessary then they shouldn’t happen either. Leave people the fuck alone.
I never said anything about anyone deserving to die in a fire.
The whole mindset of even thinking about an “opener” or “shooting your shot” is creepy and entitled as fuck. Just be fucking normal, enter the elevator and say hi, then stfu and mind your business unless they give some indication that they’re interested in conversing with you. You’re not entitled to anyone’s attention and you don’t have a shot unless they offer you one.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I do because I’m shy. But I think it’s insane to go around wanting to police talking to strangers when in public. That’s part of what it means to be in public. Someone might talk to you. The horror.
Shooting your shot is how you offer someone their shot. Interactions - which, even with strangers, are a normal part of the human experience - don’t happen unless someone goes first. If the other person ignores you, says they’re not interested, or indicates a lack of interest with a non-committal response, that’s when politeness dictates you shut up.
No, but you joined the discussion on the same side as someone who did, and never distanced yourself from that statement until now.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 hours ago
Yeah, which why you have to read the fucking room. If you get in an elevator and they don’t greet or otherwise make it apparent that they’re open to conversation, you do not have a shot to take and they don’t want one with you. Leave them alone. They’re not in public to be fucking bothered, they’re there to meet friends, or partake in some service or event. If you’re not part of those things then you’re not invited.
Fuck off, I wasn’t taking anyone’s side, I was calling out your bullshit about someone being trapped in an elevator with you entitling you to their attention.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
What a toxic fucked up shitty way to be. I’m glad I won’t be seeing your comments anymore. This is precisely the kind of interaction that takes Lemmy from a magical community to having the huge caveat of having to block 500 users to tolerate it. Shame on you.
FishFace@piefed.social 17 hours ago
You keep saying “entitled to someone’s attention” but talking to someone doesn’t require any special entitlement or even attention. They can ignore you.
This is the first you’ve said about reading the room, too, so it sounds like you don’t actually have an objection to deploying an “opener” - you’re just assuming it’s being done without exchanging a smile or something first.
And don’t get pissy because you pushed back against someone pushing back against something, didn’t actually agree with the something, didn’t make that clear, and then were assumed to agree with it. If you leap to someone’s defence but don’t agree with half their comment you can just say that and it helps everyone.
I don’t think there’s anything else to gain in this conversation.