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Where’s the hate/limitation I spoke of? Or I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

I also specifically didn’t say that the reaction makes something racist; rather I said it can make it indefensible. I feel like we’re not communicating well here.

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VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Americans tend to assume that any instance of a white person painting their face black is horrendous

That implies that the instance we’re talking about, in this case Zwarte Piet, is not horrendous. See above image. I believe that is where the miscommunication is happening.

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- FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  What exactly is it that you find horrendous? Pretend I’m a very sheltered teenager.
  
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  - VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Black people look like people, not drow elves with giant red lips. It’s a racial caricature. I’ve stated and restated that. Dutch Christmas celebrators themselves recognize that.
    
    Old Zwarte Piet Costume: Image
    
    New Sooty Pete Costume:
    
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    I’ve explained as best I can. This feels like willful ignorance. It’s up to you now to read what we’ve said and figure out why we’ve said it. Trust me, if you reread this thread you’ll figure it out.
    
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    FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    But why is making a (racial) caricature of someone harmful? Can you imagine any situation or alternative timeline in which such a caricature would be neutral?
    
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