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Tsk. Mao is not the same sort of concept as capitalism. Has he killed more or fewer people than mosquitoes or bananas? What about too short green traffic lights? Moonless nights? All questions that make the same amount of sense. Mate.

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rzadkie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Feel free to count a famine caused by a capitalist leader against that person’s score.

They already did???

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- logi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Which leader was that?
  
  Y’all are trying to count all the evils of capitalism and colonialism against the bone headed incompetence of Mao and it just doesn’t make any sense.
  
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  - rzadkie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    If I understood you correctly - you think that great man theory applies to china, but in the empire mode of production just does that?
    
    Why do you think people who invented mass line were cool with somone singlehandedly making decisions? (I mean I know exactly why, as every accusation is a confession, but ffs have some dignity)
    
    In almost every place on the planet at the time, give people power and you get 4 pests campaign equivalent. Unless you think that feudal peasants somehow possesed modern understanding of agriculture? And in the same vein, give people power and they’ll end poverty and homlessness. (Not)Suprisingly in the west, despite material obundance, that doesn’t have happened yet.
    
    Maybe “all evils of capitalism and colonialism” are the consequence of “bone headed incompetence” of western elites? And that mistakes of great leap forward were made by collective decisions made in the face of war, famine, siege and 100 years under foreign boot?
    
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    logi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    You’re weird.
    
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tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The death tolls im stating are coming from WHO, world health organization, and are directly the resultat of capitalist exploitation in the area.

If the famines leading to the death of millions, are the fault of communism through the negligence of Mao as you stated earlier, then why tf is similar famines, created by the negligence of capitalist power holders, not the fault of capitalism?

or do you want me to find out the names of the CEOs so we can put blame entirely on the individual? That would then mean that the deaths in china was only the fault of Mao as well, and has nothing to do with the communism.

either the economic system is partly at fault or it isnt. Pick a lane pal.

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- logi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I didn’t ever say it was the fault of communism. I said it was the fault of Mao. Because he severely mismanaged, well, everything. But if you want to shout into the void about capitalism then go ahead. Shout away.
  
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  - tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Very much sounded like you were implying it had to do with the economic system, but if youre saying the economic systems has no fault to play in either case, cool cool.
    
    Should we hold people like that responsible then in your view? The people who cause great harm to the test of the world whether that be through capitalist or communist or any other mode of production?
    
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    logi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Should we hold people like that responsible then in your view? The people who cause great harm to the rest of the world whether that be through capitalist or communist or any other mode of production?
    
    Yes. And if we’re holding a person to the flame then it’s fair to compare them to another person, but not to compare them to another system. Somewhere in these comments I offered Churchill as someone who merrily starved India.
    
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