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CameronDev@programming.dev 3 weeks agoThere is no need to call me a sweet summer child.
I’m not terribly swayed by a Munich regional case, especially as its still under appeal.
The anthropic settlement definitely is a bit more meaningful though, although it does contradict the Munich one:
We reached this settlement in 2025, after the court’s landmark ruling that training AI on books is fair use under copyright law
The basically settled because they stole the copies of books they used to train on. If they had just paid for a copy of the books they possibly would have been fine.
ell1e@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
My apologies, it was an attempt at humor which I can see backfired terribly. I personally find the regional case is interesting because it shows the possibility of courts seeing this differently, and it’s more than just the ones I quoted.
I think there might be a possible misunderstanding, sorry about my lack of clarity: I wasn’t trying to prove that this is for sure a copryight infringement, since I’m not a lawyer anyway. But I think it’s pretty obvious NVidia doesn’t care if it turns out to be one.
CameronDev@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
The regional case isnt interesting because its regional. Regional courts get it wrong all the time, only for it to be overturned by higher courts. There is also the possibility that this court was known to be pro-authors or anti-big tech, and the case was brought there for that specific reason.
If it gets held up on appeal then that is much more interesting, but for now, its basically one judges opinion.
ell1e@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
In my uninformed opinion, it casts quite some extreme doubt on the narrative that it’s absurd that courts will somehow decide against AI. And again, there are multiple cases where this happened, it’s not just one judge.
CameronDev@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Oracle v Google went back and forth for the better part of a decade, with rulings on both sides. This is much the same, time will tell.