Those who want to act against the rich and powerful are called, “the left.”
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jld@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The fight isn’t left vs right, it’s down vs up. That’s what they spent their money on, making sure we lowbies keep on fighting against each other. None of it works, except to make sure powerful people remain powerful and rich.
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
jld@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
How? By funneling taxes to a central authority and empowering them? Because we’re not empowering society by doing that. We’re actually empowering just a small group, who gets all the agency to make decisions on behalf of everybody and, most likely, on behalf of themselves mostly. An actually fair society needs to be governed in a decentralized manner. On the far left, we’ve got communism, and we all know how that went, and on the far right we’ve got fascism, and we definitely know how that went.
I maintain my original hypothesis that “the left” and “the right” are simply constructs designed to keeps up fighting among ourselves, where we mostly disagree with each other in a tribalist way, as opposed to actually discussing and thinking about the problems and trying to come up with solutions. To me, it’s plain simple that we need both mindsets combined to be able to actually fight the rich and the powerful.
But that’s it from me on politics this week. As I problem solver, I have less and less interest on this pointless topic.
Objection@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
That is an anarchist position, anarchism is a strain of leftist thought.
To me, it’s plain simple that we need both mindsets combined to be able to actually fight the rich and the powerful.
We need right-wing thought to fight the rich and powerful? What part? Cutting taxes on the rich? Starting wars of aggression? Kicking down doors and rounding up immigrants?
The right is completely wrong, has no insight on anything, mostly on account of being completely anti-intellectual. All of their policies are about reinforcing existing heirarchies, strengthening the rich and weakening the poor. Opposing those policies is not “tribalism.” I challenge you to name one right-wing position with any merit.
As a problem solver, I have less and less interest on this pointless topic.
Pointless topics! So you don’t actually care about fighting the rich at all.
jld@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
That is an anarchist position, anarchism is a strain of leftist thought. Well, there’s also anarcho-capitalism, or minarchism. But what’s happening right here with this discussion is exactly my point. There’s a senseless drive to put individuals into these tiny bubbles of left or right, and this solves nothing.
We need right-wing thought to fight the rich and powerful? What part? Cutting taxes on the rich? Starting wars of aggression? Kicking down doors and rounding up immigrants? Nah, couldn’t care less for those guys. It’s freakin’ insanity what’s happening right now in the world. What I’m saying is that taxes merely shift the control elsewhere. If you have to tax, those are the guys to be taxed. My problem with taxes is that it accomplishes nothing really. This general position against “the rich” is also slightly biased, but completely understandable given the current events. Dude, I am absolutely disgusted by the stuff those guys are doing! It’s mind blowing to me the level of insanity we have reached. Now, are you going to ask the government to help you out here, when they are essentially the enemy? I don’t get it. Also, are we gonna add to the chaos and make it worse, or are we actually gonna shift out of a destructive mindset and try to clearly identify problems and find solutions? It’s just that revenge taxing the rich will essentially accomplish nothing beyond satisfying the egos of a few people.
Pointless topics! So you don’t actually care about fighting the rich at all. I don’t, not directly. I care about addressing the real problems, the core issues. For example, the fact that the rich and the powerful seem to be above the law. This is why I believe the decentralization of power is a fundamental mechanism in the fight against corruption. A central body of power will always be corrupt.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It never was right vs left, it never was generational. That’s just what everyone has been duped into arguing over. And they love it. Because while people under 40 are bitching about all their problems being because caused by anyone over the age of 70, those ultra wealthy kid-fuckers and laughing their asses off funneling more tax dollars into their bank accounts