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Beeen132@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• personalhel@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  you are joking, right?

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  • Beeen132@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not. Do you even have an argument?

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    • personalhel@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      you could start by opening a history book and realize progress is never reached outside of power structures with a credible threat of violence. do you seriously think we should not have executed the rest of the top nazos after ww2?

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      • Beeen132@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes I think we should not have killed them. What an easy way out for them…

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• FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That is assuming everyone plays by the rules.

  As it turns out, some particular people have turned playing outside of the rules as much as possible and as cruely as possible into a sport.

  They won’t be corrected by the rules. They won’t be persuaded by common human decency. Quite the contrary even, they actively and aggressively lean into the opposite direction.

  Now it’s against the rules to derail a train. But how much more tragic would it be not to do so if that train is about to run into a hospital?

  That of course being a lazy metaphor but I think my point stands.

  Death penalties, war crimes, … all things that are suposed to be accepted as par for the course. But for the elite…oh no, that’s a finger waggin.

  Killing is wrong, but it is most definitely not a monochrome issue.

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  • Beeen132@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It does not. Criminals by definition do not play by the rules and we as a society have found many ways to deal with them without killing them.

    I’m not arguing against justice.

    I’m just saying, that, on a fundamental level, it is never okay to kill another person or make up stupidly simplified metaphors to justify killing.

    It’s dehumanizing brain rot and if you guys can’t see that you’re really not much better than the made up devils you wish to kill.

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    • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “No. Criminals by definition do not play by the rules and we as a society have found many ways to deal with them without killing them.”

      Have we? Because last time I checked we still have genocides going on without as much as a slap on the wrist.

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      • Beeen132@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes we have and when you look at the last century you will see a lot of progress.

        What I understand of your comment, based on the context of the post, is, that because things are bad it’s okay for us to be bad as well. That’s really the easiest way to fool yourself.

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• t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You consider someone anti-life because they refuse to stand by idly while someone kills others?

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  • Beeen132@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No. I consider someone anti-life that argues killing is basically okay if you think it’s okay. It’s a made up comic and not one of us really knows what the bad guy did.

    But the tone in this comment section feels more like: yeah sure killing others is totally fine if we just find a reason to feel good about it. Wtf? What low level trigger would be okay for you to kill another person without feeling bad?

    I’m not the police on a specific mission and I’m not in a country where we have mass shooting. But even in this case I would argue that we badly need to find ways to prevent mass shooting instead of being okay with killing the shooter.

    As for crime in general… The more civilized society is the one without the death penalty.

    Dehumanizing imaginary people and ease of mind with it, that’s what’s happening here.

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